Hi guys. Welcome to the really good podcast with your host Bobby, altough. Today, this is a little different of an introduction because my videographer that I found by the trash can actually forgot to press record for the first three minutes of my interview and working on replacing him right now. But I'm just going to introduce my guest, his name is Mark Cuban. You may have heard of him. He is on Shark Tank, and he has some money in his bank account. So we unfortunately had to record
In a building that I had to run because he didn't want us to use this house. So it was a we did, I couldn't afford chairs so that's why we're sitting on the floor of a parking garage and his feet are dirty because there was a oil all over the floors and I didn't have time to clean them all up, but I hope you enjoy. I don't have any money, none. I'll, I've died. Actually, you have debt. How much debt do you have right now? I have like 20,000 dollars of
debt. That sucks is a from school. Is that
I know from my podcast
Of your podcast when you borrow money
for I didn't I would borrow it from the bank to like I put on a credit card. Just every episode that I film, I spend a lot of money
on. Wow, I have it made. Why don't you come to me and like investors instead of having to borrow
because I wanted to have full ownership of it myself.
So, who could chew let's make it scary. When you borrow money to start a business, isn't it? It is, yeah, yeah. Tell people not to, and it's better just to like start slow, but it takes a lot of guts to do that.
At. Thank you, I believe, in my podcast. So I just, I've been trying my best. I found some a few guests, some d-list celebrities, but you're the first big guest.
I thought, I'm the first d-list. Celebrity.
A little less. Yeah, yeah. No. I've had some d-list celebrities in the
past, you know, otherwise. But, you
know, yeah, you know, it's all, it's
all got Drake a bed and I get a
floor, that's because he provided the bud. You didn't provide a location.
I mean for twenty thousand dollars. You just kind of got me a sheet.
I
Yeah, I could have but the thing was, is that I'm on the last, like, my credit card limit is twenty thousand dollars. I have
like so cars here, there's like oil stains and everything around it leaves, you pick the clean spot.
No, we slip heard it before you came the Swiffer did. Well, it might spend money on a Swiffer for my camera guy. Found a sliver and we suffered it before you came
see. It's not often you find a Swiffer.
So, yeah, I mean, I think you're lucky, and if you move anywhere else, it's going to be pretty gross. But we did find a slipper. Appreciate that. Yeah, you're welcome. I have an interesting fact for you. What's that? We have the same birthday.
What? So you got a birthday coming up? Yeah, you do too. Yeah, I like yours better than mine.
Yeah. I like yours because you have a lot of money so you probably have a lot of
fun. Yeah. I do have a lot of fun. Yeah. What are you gonna do for your birthday? Well, I got my kids here in town so we're just going to go, you know, my kids are all teenagers 13, 16 and 19. So even though it's my birthday, they get to pick. Because if they didn't pick, they went do it and they would just say happy birthday dad. So wherever they decide, that's where I'm going. What do you think they're going to decide? So we're staying in
Una Beach. And there's a diner called rubies and that's where they usually like to go. So I'm
guessing that's not what I would have
expected to see a rubies were. I'll get a chocolate milkshake and I get french fries because like, kind of a family thing is, we like to dip French fries in our milk shakes chocolate. So that's nice. Yeah. And they have, I'm so sorry Yaar. Something else? That's not my style. No, no, no, no, I'm not going to ask you to invite me to whatever you were doing. But I think that I'll probably be fine. Yeah, I mean you don't want to go to Ruby's. I do sea salt, chocolate.
Milkshakes with french fries, riding me? Yeah, you can come my birthday. Yeah, for your birthday, too. That could be really cool. Joint birth. I'll bring my kids. Yeah. Hold your kids 3 & 1. Oh, that's great. Your kids can babysit. That's right. That's right. Then his future there. Sure. Okay sure, are you being serious or just saying this? Because there's cameras, both,
Okay, I hope that you you keep fussing about
energy, I think really cool that was he, but I don't know where my kids are taking me. But I'll, I'll get your info and I'll text you and let you live in Laguna Beach. Oh, you do living down here. Oh, that's easy. Yeah. So, you know, rubies and that's like no good Ruby's, what know how long have you lived in Laguna
for a like 11
months. Okay. Yeah that's still. Yeah, its
iconic. I'll have to go there. Have you heard of it and
so am I? That's my one time that I. That's the one time I have milk shakes.
Is on my birthday at Ruby's for
real. I'll have some good dairy pills. I'll give you.
Oh, you know, but part of the joy of being lactose intolerant is creating misery for all the people around
you. That's nice of you to do that to them. I will not want to be around you if you don't take the
lactose pills. So on Shark Tank right? Where they went deals? Come on, that have food, sometimes they have dairy in them and they're like, we'll just try it. And just and whenever there's Dairy all the other sharks know to like slide over that way.
Damon is also lactose intolerant, so it kind of becomes a kind of a fun thing. Kind of,
not really fun for everyone else, but yeah, yeah, yeah. Just try still do shark
tank. Uh, yeah. We just did, we filmed the first pod for season 15, for two weeks in June and then we go back in September for a week, and that'll be it. That's all it takes. Yeah,
but that'll be it. Like it's done forever or
that. No, no, no, no. For the season 4 season
15. Okay. That's that's, I'll miss that I used to watch
Watch her show
you used to? Yeah
why'd you stop? Do people still watch it?
It the show? Yes.
Okay, I stopped because I thought it stopped existing, but I'm feeling. Well, I don't know. It just, it's been a long time. I used to watch it before I had kids
will. Come on, come on back. Give us another try.
Bobby. I used to want to, wow. That was like the voice. You did it.
I did the Shark Tank
forces act. Yeah, I was pretty cool to hear in real life.
And for that reason,
I'm out.
I meant.
No, I'm out. You're in.
You're in
I have I can I pitch an idea?
No, because you don't watch. How do you know if we do it the same way anymore? I don't want. Can I try it? No. Why would we do it? If you don't do it, the same way, we used to do it but we do it differently now. Hmm,
you got me there but okay, go ahead. Okay, my podcast. Okay, I have it. I'm just in that,
right? That's too much debt. It does has too much debt.
Yeah. Okay. You don't think it's a good
idea. I think podcast is you're doing is a great idea. It's been
Great. But it's got too much
debt, you don't think there's any money to be made off of it.
We got a great agent and you got a great agency and you got a great guest. And so, yeah, there's probably some money, but what are your advertisers? I'm like,
I don't have any.
Well, that's a problem. Why don't you have any
advertisements? No one's asked yet. No one's asked. Yeah, I know. It's asked to advertise.
Yeah, see what it's supposed to work the other way, where you go out and ask them, and you tell them why they should advertise the sponsors or
anything not, not a single thing. No one.
No, the only money I make is from YouTube, really. And
Tick-Tock oh that's always a pain because you never know what they're going to give you.
Yeah, just a Gamble
and you haven't haven't any sponsors at all.
Not a single sponsor for my podcast, know,
and you still all your twenty thousand dollars how long you've been doing the podcast like since April April? Yeah. Say you're not here, not here, because April is not a year. No, no, no, Don. I
haven't been failing by along its
new. Well, you're not failing at all, you do.
I'm
good. My bank account would say
otherwise then, what I would tell you is when we go dip our french fries, in our at least my milkshake, you may not, then I give you some advice on selling ads
for, give me some money.
I don't know that I'd invest in a podcast just to Beyond
just money though. Oh just give you money like twenty thousand dollars.
Know what, you know what if I give you? Twenty thousand dollars. I got to pay taxes on that. Yeah, yeah I do know that.
That and that's no fun.
Did you get some oil on your hand little bit? But that's okay. Thank you. I'll buy you new clothes.
Are you gonna buy me clothes? If you don't have any money,
we're gonna give me twenty thousand dollars a month off some
money. Well, I don't wear nice clothes anyway. So it wouldn't take much
well, I know I'm not planning on using the whole twenty thousand dollars to buy you clothes. I'm planning on using like maybe a few dollars of it to get you the clothes.
Would you buy me?
I'll go to Target,
but would you buy me a T-shirt and some shorts but I know Target very well-liked, which
their own part of Target and always shot there. Hmm. You probably own it to know a little bit.
No, not even. One share of
stock you tried know why not?
It's just like podcasting. It's a tough business. Okay,
I just wanted like I just think that you should give me 20,000 dollars.
I mean I could I know you could but it would set a bad
example. What? Because other people would ask you for
20,000 every podcast or on the
plane. Okay, let's just say of right now on the record. No, he's not going to be giving me any money. Okay. I'm an author occurred. Can you give me twenty thousand dollars? Yeah, you really think I'm an under-the-table guy? Yeah, I'm not at least know.
10,000. Hey guys, I want to take a quick second to thank SeatGeek for sponsoring this episode. I know you guys are all shocked to be hearing this. Somebody sponsored my podcast, finally, but I knew that I had to work with SeatGeek. After I did an episode with Drake because I heard that he does concerts or tours and I'm really excited to go see him perform. When I was looking online for the tickets, I just made sure that I went to the Green Dot. Not the Red Dot because green means cheap
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Take me to a game. Sure, you can come to a game, we
fun. I think. That'd be a lot of fun to have a lot of fun. With the maps.
I would have a lot of fun with them, but the map on guys, too. Yeah. What sport is it basketball? Okay. I like basketball players. Do you really? I like the other players? Yeah.
Have you do what, who's your best? Like, favorite best friend player?
You tell me some LeBron a LeBron James. Yeah. The project website. I forgot about him but I do. I do like him as he all the Mavericks. No he's not. Okay. No you are you trying to get him? Okay well we have this guy named Luke adachi. How old do you think I am 40?
41.
What do you think
about?
Just bye.
Your
mannerisms 41.
Okay, Grandpa.
Hey, I'm young. I just have
old ski. Even at 40, you could still if I'm 40, you could still be my grandpa. So that's pushing it though. That's not pushing it. That's pushing it. That means you had me when you were like 40, because you're Whitey.
Let's see if I had you. When I was 40. I won't be your grandpa. Yeah.
Okay.
Hmm.
No, how would you feel like twenty four, twenty
five, twenty five right. Well, I'll be
26:26. That's right. Next week on our birthday.
I can't believe we have the same birthday. It's pretty cool. That is really
cool. You know, who else? You know? Wesley Snipes has no, you know, Zac Brown, right? Zac Brown Band, I've heard of him. Yeah. Who else has our birthday?
Have you looked this up?
No, because when it shows up, like,
because you look yourself up a
No-No. So they show people's
Is that the put mine in there. And so then I'll look to see who else is birthday. It is and it's nicely like Wesley Snipes and Root Boy. Slim Fatboy Slim rockafeller, skank was the song? Yeah, for your time. Yeah. My grandpa. Yeah you believe know who Wesley Snipes now then but you will notice that brown he's kind of distant.
Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. Maybe you should host a big birthday party for all the people with July 31st birthday. I
I did I did and you didn't invite me. I didn't know you back then how long ago was last year ago? Five years
ago we had Stevie Wonder.
Okay this sounds like a place. You should have invited
me we had
Chainsmokers. Okay I know these people. Yeah couple other folks. Yeah I would like to know them personally like you do so invite me next time. Why aren't you doing throwing a birthday party for us this year? You know, I just didn't realize what I was missing until just now and say things but it's not too late to put something on. Hopefully I'll have another
One.
I hope so too. Like maybe like ten
more. Yeah, we're more. Yeah. A lot more than
that, your lady right now. So you have
like 30 to go,
you want to live till you're on 110 115? Okay. That's 35. Yeah. Okay. Are you good at math?
Am I good at math? Yeah, I used to be.
Yeah, I can tell it's fading, its
fading fast
happens. When you get
old that happens, you know,
do you remember being 25?
Yeah. Do you miss it
parts of it? You poor when you were 25 that I was sleeping on the floor? Yeah, now look at you. I'm right back where I started from
ride. Had to bring It full circle. - does not. Yes, I wanted you to look that up. Actually, I was like, oh, but I'm back on the floor back in the floor because I couldn't afford
and I was when I was 25. That's right. Right after I moved to Dallas and I had six guys in a three-bedroom apartment sleeping on the floor. That's you
know, you how do you find these guys?
Is
I went to school in Indiana so they were my buddies there. Oh, and so they went down to Dallas and say, come on down I was like all right my car. I'll make it. And that's how far I
got. Wow. Yeah, that's amazing. When did you stop being poor? How are you?
Probably, when I was 28 or 29, that's what I'll tell you. That's not my 27th. It was when I was 27 I won't forget it. Actually, I went to the ATM.
IM to try to get, get out some money because I had a business like you right item, borrow money, but I had someone steal some money from me. And so, I got fucked up. And so I went to the ATM and showed me a big old 0 and so it's when I was 27 and then got past that and then bam, bam. Bam. Bam, bam.
So, so I have like a year to two little bit. Yeah, figure those things out because billionaire, fuck up. Yeah. Do you think I could be a billionaire one day or
do I want to be, you know, but being a billionaire takes luck. I mean, you'd be rich.
You can be well off if you bust your ass and that's not to say a lot of people bust their ass and don't make it but there's like a path if you have your own business and you know, how to sell, what you haven't been too good at. Yeah. Thank you for reminding me. You're welcome. But if you get good at selling and you can build your business and I have to start as a millionaire and then if you get lucky then you never know where takes you from there.
I hope it takes me to be a billionaire. I've gotten pretty lucky so far. I've had a lot of
Lucky breaks good. So you just got to monetize.
Um, you know that which means turn it into money which you
haven't. I know I wanted eyes means to do. Yeah, don't you don't do, did find monetized me. I don't know.
Okay, I won't be contended any kind of sending any more and you mispronounced conversating, I was thinking sorry about that. I was thinking of its kind of sending catch up, you know, but why were you thinking about ketchup? Because the thing about rubies, okay, you have do own reviews a little bit, a little bit of it. No, I feel like I do but because I'm there on my birthday a lot, but I don't a lot. How many times do you go there? Just every year for your birthday.
Yeah pretty much. Yeah
and the next you're going to be getting a yacht and gifting it to me. So then I'm going to all celebrate our birthday. All I
got, that's because you're stuck in the middle of
nowhere. Okay. I don't really like I've never really been on one so I can't stay but I've been on time. I've been on a cruise,
have you been on a booze cruise? You have love booze
cruises. Do you do? I've never been on one of those machines are full, okay, do you want to do that? You don't want to do that. Why not a birthday?
No, not this birthday. Huh?
Okay, just Ruby's this birthday.
Yeah.
Okay. Like I said, my kids kind of set the
tone. Yeah, that sucks
so bad. You know, you like your kids love my kids. Yeah, that's good. That's part of the day.
Yeah, that's that's good. That you like them.
You don't want that. I mean, you got two kids, right? You'll find out like when they're one and three, they're just little blobs that are fun. Yeah, most of the time, right? Then they grow up and then they're fun and lovable and huggable and they hug you back, then they turn into teenagers and it all changes.
They what they are better. Sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes I feel like because you have so much money they couldn't not like, you
know, hopefully that doesn't. That
doesn't? It definitely does a little
bit. Nah, hmm. I think that you know, sometimes I think that's the part. They don't
like you have money, why would you mean they want to be poor?
Not that they want to be poor but it sets an
expectation have their inheritance because then if they don't like it but
not even that. It's just, that's how other people see them because, you know, just like when your kids grow up and yeah,
I'll be like your mom is Bobby and then they'll think of your mom, their mom before they think of them. Yeah, so
that's our fault. They should work harder to make a name for themselves. Then could be. Yeah, you're going to do the same,
you know, we'll find
out. They should be trillionaires if they want to make it about them,
you'll find out whatever they want to do and
they want to do anything. Exciting,
maybe have a
podcast, they're going to steal my podcast. Absolutely. And then they have your money. So I
said I was a grandpa so I'm gonna teach them how to do a podcast and it's going to be a
Podcast with d and e and C, Level
celebrities, you don't want to do a list celebrities
I could but then I won't be competing with you,
okay? So you're going to I'm number 2 on the charts right now. Are you trying to be number three?
So you're next to let? No, no, I'm not trying to be number three.
You're trying to be number one.
Let's see.
You and your kids and my kids.
Okay, no, not me and my kids, I want them to do their own thing. That's got to be them. Doing their thing, are they talented? They are actually, they're pretty smart, you know? But everybody thinks their kids are talented in some way or
not. Yeah, but some people are lying.
Yeah, that's true. But they're so far. I mean they do well in school and they're good kids. Yeah. So whatever direction to take some
sounds like they're good kids. I feel like if they weren't good kids, you would just be like, oh yeah, I know, there are going to be
okay. No, I literally did you talk about things to change money?
A changes everything in a lot of respects more help. People see you like if your personality changes with your bank account, then you're fucked up in the first place, right? But when of all the things that I can have two or by the best thing ever is when I'm with my kids and so that, and that that's not something you can buy
that's, that's incredible. Yeah,
it really is. I mean that's the
best I want to test the theory about it. It's judge want to test. If maybe my personality changes with money, will you put a million dollars in my bank account?
And then because then he didn't earn it's completely
different. We'll just test to see if I personality is still good. We can pretend that's not for
Todd. Yeah because that's what most people do. They say you know I have a million dollars in the bank. No one's going to know that you're lying. You can see you have a I don't know. Okay. You can say that's worth a million dollars right there. It was good to know,
all know on
the few just you know just but it's what everybody else think that everybody's going to think you're a millionaire wasn't like, you were going to give money in the first place. That's true, right? It wasn't like you were to buy them. Anything wasn't like I mean you how would you address any differently if you had a million dollars?
Yes, I would dress the same. Yeah, right so I just yeah. I just be fun because I probably own a house. How many houses do you
own?
Three.
That's all. I thought you going to keep going to like 15.
Wow, yeah, most of those. I bought a while ago, when I thought that you some clothes. Where are they all located? Laguna, Dallas
Cayman Islands. Okay. Which one of them do not stay on often. Caymans just forgot that one now because I let my friend stay there, I'm not your friend, I don't know. It's got a shady right? You're right now. Mmm.
I think we could I think we could be
friends. We have the same birthday. That's a
good you and I think that is a good start. Your name is is Mark Cuban. That's not my name so nobody will get confused. This is true. Yeah, so that's good. We have two different names with the same birthday
with the same birthday, same
dates. And what's your social security? Number
one, seven three one five to one four six seven,
But serious.
What's the last four of your checking account?
2307.
Okay, thank you. I'm not going to do anything with that, but if money disappears, don't complain, don't
complain. Yeah, yeah, to give you the good
account.
How many accounts do you have?
The bunch. Okay I had I hope one day that I have a bunch of icons to what do you do with your free time? Now just play with your kids
know, they're big. Now they play with themselves into friends. But yeah. I mean work like what I do, what do you do for work? I've got a company called cost-plus drugs.com that tries to save people a lot of money on their medications. That's kind of like my thing. And then,
what do you got? Why'd you do that?
Because it's crazy in 2023, people got to chew,
Between food and ran and paying for their meds. And so we put together this company that we go to cos plus drugs.com, you can put in your prescription and we show you what our cost is to buy it. Then we mark it a 15% so you know exactly why you're paying what your pain and that's always cheaper than what anybody else sells it for. And so we've been changing a lot of
people's lives successfully your company.
Yeah. Yeah, it's only, it's 18 months
old and it's wow. Yeah, that's amazing. Do you need an investor
now? I don't want.
To take anybody's money for it simply because we're not trying to make money. We're trying to
just and I could help you though, you could. I'll can I do on advertise on my
podcast. As you could see, we don't spend any money on ads but we can set something up for me to
do it for free. Yes, ma'am. Okay. What's the incentive
for me? Because then the listeners that will say you, save me all kinds of money on my medication or my grandfather, grandmother couldn't afford it, and now they can and then I'll throw
I've been mowing after a book if your grandmother wants to send me like ten dollars. There you go. Yeah. You can do that. Bobby. Altough, it Bob Geldof. Yeah. So if you guys save money send me
some dough. Yo throw some Bobby's
way. Yeah I did. Just a couple dollars here and there. That's Kathy on. Yeah, that's pretty cool. That you started that company.
It's really cool and makes me feel really good to, I mean, when you get people, like, I'm used to people walking up to me for various reasons than that as or shark tank. But now I like, I've literally had people just run up to me cry and hug me.
But which is insane. That isn't, you know, someone tells you that they didn't know with their grandmother, could afford their cancer medication and we cut their costs from two thousand dollars a month, fifty dollars a month. That's, yeah, it's crazy. That the systems that way but that's why we started the
company. That sounds like you're a really good person. Depends on. Who you ask. I don't know anybody that would say you weren't
Oh, I know, I know, I know who would the people who Mark the drugs up. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. People who were taking their place.
Yeah. I don't think they like, you
know, I'm lucky I get to fuck with other people in that way and yeah,
yeah, I I will think of a business idea that you'll actually invested in since you don't like my podcast.
But there's all kinds of things you can do with your podcast. Yeah. You know like what's your big goal for your
podcast? I want to become an actress. One day
would be an actress. Yeah.
And how are you? Just
like this is just me getting there. Putting my name out there
and create visibility hunger thing
that's a smarter way of putting it. Yes. Yeah,
there you go. Simon. Have you had any? Well, it's tough right now with the strike going
on. Yeah. So no luck happening right now.
We're talking job so far. Never never yet. No, no
y-you think I'm a doctress.
I think you could be. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. I love doing acting. You act. Oh yeah I loved it cry.
Oh yeah, cry. No, I can't cry like, all right now. I can't Mas. Ya know. So you just gotta be in the character. You got to understand. No, but I've done a lot of the Cameo stuff. TJ, your agent has gotten me a lot of great
stuff on TV TV and movies. Yeah, you've been in movies. A lot about movies.
Sharknado 3, I played the president. Oh my god. Wow, I just did House Party that has party. Reboot that? LeBron James just did you know that basketball?
Yeah. You are a lot. Yeah.
That whole bunch of
them. My goodness. You're really
famous know. It's just fun. I like doing that stuff. You know. It's just yeah. Business is one side of your brain and acting is like a whole different part.
You're gonna have to teach me how to act since I've never had any,
but that's all. That's what I, that's what someone taught me. Leverage when I tried to act, that's when I really screwed up finished okay. Well, yeah, when I stopped trying and just like, just was in the moment and just talk to somebody like this. Yeah, we're acting right now. We're not acting as we are on
camera here. Are you okay?
Eating. Because it's not,
yes, he I forgot you're in the moment too much. I was in the moment too much. I was just talking to you. All right. Yeah, I contact this entire time.
Nah, I don't. Yeah,
completely oblivious to everybody.
Yeah, but I don't think this is acting unless you're acting like you like me.
I'm not that good. Okay. Thank you. Could act like that a little bit more. Okay, I love you, Bobby. This is the best cake you've ever been on ever. Have you been on any more? I've been on a bunch of podcast. Yeah, I typically don't you go on all of them. Oh my gosh, I can't return them. If you break them, you still sell it. Thank you. I would like to return them. So just don't let them break.
Are you can give me a $5 into I'll give you 20,000. I'll take five.
I think if I have a five dollar bill, you know, I don't really do carry cash anymore. I don't either how do you tell people with the credit card
and I just know what they know credit card, they don't accept it. What do you do? You just give them like a car or something
but no I mean just using a
car like if you go valet your
car, usually I'll give 20 bucks
if I value, don't have cash.
Usually, if I'm going to valet my car, then I'll make sure I have some cash with me. So I
Keep it. I keep it usually in in the car. Right? I have 20 bucks and that's where was I the other day and someone stole my 20 bucks I was so pissed. I forget where I was but like I went in. I went right where in the console where I keep it in my car,
someone stole your $20 or more $20. Oh my godness thoughts. I'm sure that really hurt you financially. God. I don't know if he'll
recover. They violated my trust. I would have felt better if they just stole my car because then,
I can get a new car but now I know that like they went into my car snooped around, found my $20 and took it. That's all they took.
I'm sure you remember financially recover from that,
it's not even that. Yeah, I know it's not that violation.
Yeah, well, they probably needed it too.
Yeah, I mean I can survive with that. But what? Who knows?
I'm going to steal $20 in your car?
I'm trying to think of like a 20, but you know what? I had to park because this place is hard to find
that. This isn't my normal Studio? Yeah, this is like I traveled to people. I asked if you wanted to do it at your house, you said no.
Yeah. Cause I got my kids there they would been like, why are these people here?
Yeah. Then we could have been friends. We're going to hang out next week anyway. So it's like that would have been good. Yeah, I had a rent. The space.
I'm sorry. Because now you're in dead 21,000.
Ah I'm sorry. Yeah it's just keeps adding I do I feel hopeful though that it eventually will stop
I'm going in that direction and I'll start to gain money. I
guess I'm going to help you have to help you with your sales.
Yes, okay.
Yes, I'll be your sales Guru. Okay, well can actually do the selling but I'll teach you how
to sell you. Can also do the song a little
bit now because you know that whole you know, teach someone to fish a tiara.
Oh you know.
Yeah teach you how to do it. Yeah. Because you want to be able to keep on doing that forever and ever more on do, bigger and bigger deal. Yeah, so that because all it really takes is one customer you get one. Good Advertiser.
You're set
right? Yeah, what other companies do you
own?
I own a lot or I'm an investor in hundreds.
Do you think any of them would like to be my sponsors?
Maybe but you got to make a good case to why it would
work. I gets a lot of
views, but does it convert into sales? Is the
question. We don't know yet
because you haven't had an Advertiser
not so you have to take a chance on
me. I think I can make that work. Okay, yeah, I'll find one of my companies. Okay, so what you go to Mark Cuban.com? And that's where all of them. Are you tell me which one you think will be a good average?
Okay, thank you. Like to make up stuff at
all. No, no, no. You sure all depends on how much the money is. A, my I could, I love makeup.
See, that's what I thought.
Yeah.
What do you mean? What do you mean by that?
What do you mean? What do I mean,
what do you mean by that? You think I look good for 40, but, okay, stop saying I'm 40.
Well, you can fuck with me but I can't fuck with you 40, really? Really Grandpa.
I'm not a grandmother. I know you're not at 40. I might be the had my kids so young.
Well that's true too with that weird you out? Yeah. Like
so you're not even a grandpa yet. No not close. Yeah. Yeah. But so it's see you were 24, 23 22, when you had your first baby. Wow, that's really young. So she has a baby at 22 and you're 44. It had Grandma 44. Would that freak you out? Yeah, I don't really like that. No, I don't want to be called to Grandma. No I don't matter. The call.
That though.
But it's okay. For you to call me Grandpa. Yeah. Okay.
You look like my grandpa
for real. Hmm.
Well, he's dead now, but you did
damn and I was just trying to be nice to you.
Wow. Yeah.
Wow, but it was an amazing guy though.
I don't remember him up but but I look like them. Yeah, a little bit. I think God was guys look similar, though. So
killing me.
Tell me about your wife.
Um, her name is Tiffany, she's she's
38.
Really no good. But I tell her, she
is. That's nice of you. How old is she?
I'm not going to speak or she'll get really, really, really,
really can't Google that
you could. But you'd have to really work to find it.
When did you meet her? I met her when I was playing basketball in Dallas and she was working the Mavericks just at the gym this before I bought all are you 62 and a half 63. Okay.
When you at her, when you are poor or Rich,
um, I was doing okay, but I wasn't rich rich. I wasn't where I am. Now, this is before we sold the company.
So I was doing all right.
You're a little bit of the couch. Not she didn't know what she was in for. Le no. No. Does she enjoy being rich?
She doesn't dislike it. But I mean there's good and bad to it but there's I mean no one's bitch and no one's complaining. Yeah, I mean there's no downside to being this obscenely Rich for me now, maybe for other people, but not for me, you
know? Yeah, I can't imagine what it's like to be a billionaire.
It's weird
but there are many other billionaires are there in the world.
You have been counted. You don't just have little meetings where all the billionaires get together and know.
Talk about their money. Nope, no,
no, no billionaires, handshake. None of that
stuff. You don't, there's nothing. Do you talk to other billionaires?
I know some others, I've done events and stuff where there's been others there but most of my friends are like guys that I moved to Dallas with or you know we're friends in Dallas or friends at Indiana where I went to school or friends from Pittsburgh. All my friends that have been my friends, my entire life, still my friends. That's amazing. Yeah, it's good. I mean,
People think that the people think like you got to make new friends or, you know, you got Butler's or this
Adama Butler. No. Do you cook your own meals?
Um my meals are really simple, okay, I'm bills? Yeah, you don't hook them. I have someone look like when I'm in Dallas and trying to eat healthy, I have a chef that will make. I hate the same things over and over but you have a chef. Yeah, but that's just for my stuff but like my wife will cook for the family or like here in Laguna. I made my own lunches.
Or whatever
dinners that's crazy. I don't know what. I don't think I would you do your own laundry
and not in Dallas but here. Yeah.
You do your own laundry? I'm capable? Yeah, that's that's wild. I don't think I would do my own laundry. If I had that much money, takes two seconds, it's just easier, it's not easier. It is well, I don't want that much laundry. Look, I mean, look at this. It's like workout gear shorts and t-shirts. Yeah, that's it. Dude, your kids laundry to know who does that the kids now that are supposed to do their own. Even my son Jake did his own laundry. The other day I was, he told me, you know, what I'm proud of you. That's crazy that your
Hire them someone to do their laundry. No give a
chauffeur. No. No. I like to draw myself a drove myself here.
Oh, yeah. That's really weird. No, a little bit.
No, I like the Privacy. I don't like, like, you know, I've been around people who like, have hire somebody to do everything for them and that's just like, no privacy. It's hard enough to have privacy, you know? I mean, you know, it's like people just like, hey, Bobby. Hey Bobby. Hey, Bobby this and you don't get any privacy as it is and, you
know, scared like someone's going to come up.
To you. And you're by yourself. You don't have security.
I have security. If I'm someplace, I think I need it, but typically
know it's shocking. No, that's very
shocking. No. I mean, I literally true. I mean try to just, I don't know, it all sounds corny. So, no, it doesn't keep going. I mean, I just try to be the same person. I mean, as I was when I was poor and middle and Rich I mean why when I was broke
So Kyle I had a blast I mean I love my life and and so you know I could wake up smiling and you know back then he just had to not answer the phone because it'd be a bill collector and you know not but I still still having fun and those same guys we all went out to dinner the other night and we still tell the same stupid ass stories and do the same stupid shit. And
You know, that's good. I mean I don't, you know, the whole idea of like, oh, get a get a yacht right? Like there's there's some guy that used to own Sears which is out of business. Now he has a yacht called The Fountainhead and he would tell everybody was my yacht and so everybody would thought I had a yacht and they would all asked me to come on my yacht and I was like, I don't like boats. I don't have a yacht that just doesn't. It's just not what I would do. Yeah just not at all.
You have other things.
Yeah, I keep houses. I've got planes. Oh, you have plans that's way cooler than Yachts. I don't know why I asked you that. Yeah, because blade. Do you see you? Don't you don't fly like economy. No, you don't know what a nonstop flight is. Yeah, I do. Okay. Well you have something that Drake doesn't, he doesn't know what a nonstop flight is because he's he's poor compared to you though. So
I mean, you know, for me, you know, the plane is about saving time, but I love it, I love it. Yeah, it's my best toy. How many do you have? Including the Mavs 3. So I have 757 for the Mavs. I've got a G5 and a bombardier. 6000, I think it is. Can I will you fly me somewhere? I've never been on a private plane before. No, of course, maybe we'll do a podcast next time. Our next time we go.
That we should have done that this time. That's way
cooler. Yeah, but it's a pain in the ass to get the whole thing set up. And next time we do a podcast we're doing on my plane
that would be really cool. That's a deal. And then also can we do another time where I just go on your plane maybe like some more cool. Like the Cayman Islands maybe I could be
fun. Yeah. Take the kids down to the Caymans.
Yeah. Or leave them at home. That'd be fun to be fine-tuned and then bring all your single on VA players.
Whatever you need. That could be, that could be fun, you know, maybe next year for my
birthday. Same time next year. Like
everything. Yeah. Every year, we should celebrate our birthday together.
Come down here to Laguna since you're here and I'm here and we're all here.
And what do you, where do you go to? Catch your
plane John Wayne
Airport? That's amazing. I go there, too, but I do what the poor people do and we mine but I know that's not your
lines.
Take your shoes off. All that shit. I yes, that at all.
Yeah, I would love to not do that. So I'm excited. Do you think that I have to go to New York next week? Can I use your plane? Okay. I just thought I'd shoot my shot her desk. Yeah. You could have said yes you still. Can you can you can say yes I won't my smiling. When you say that
because it's better than frowning. I won't. Okay, that's true. Now I feel like you're being mean
So maybe you could let me know why
that's a hassle Mark. That's up to
we're friends, we share the same birthday.
I know we're getting
close. Yeah so let's let's let's just some day. Let me take your plan with me to your New York someday. Do you want to see me on this to your Airlines
Debbie kind of cool? Well then you come with me maybe I won't have a problem with that at all. Okay then come with me. We'll do the next con podcast will go like somewhere that we know nobody's going to go and there's no one else on the plane.
And we'll get, that's not how it works. You don't just go on planes with no one
on it, but you know, like if there's a 3 a.m., you know, red-eye from, you know, John Wayne to Des Moines, Iowa. It's not going to be packed,
right? So how that works. I've never been on a plane in those empty.
Yeah, I have you've never liked
private. Of course, you have all your plan
without gonna fly commercial. It's not like I haven't flown
commercial, do you but when's the last time you
have last year?
Why did you do that yourself?
They flew first class
did
not.
Mark
it wasn't available.
Okay? I thought that makes more sense I thought. Yeah, I was like, you wouldn't choose that for yourself. No one would choose that for themselves. It still sucks dude. Bed on your plane.
Yeah. But I don't like to sleep on the bed and
plane. What do you like to do? Just that pretend, you're like poor and sit in a seat the whole time. No, not TV screen and so, okay, okay.
It's like we have Wi-Fi so I can do all that.
You keep trying to get out of that. Podcast is going to come. You have Wi-Fi. What's that? Your Wi-Fi playing? Yeah. Yeah. It's good wife when you're buying.
Yeah, that's one of the
perks. Yeah. You have to pay like $20 or $40 to get it on the flights. I
take. Yeah but it's expensive on a private plane but yeah,
this is expensive. How much?
I don't know if that's a good part. I don't know. Nice. Yeah, that part is nice.
Do you want me to be her personal assistant? Know why
I have one? And she's been around a long time and she'd get ready can work with her. I know, but she get really, really mad if I did that,
but you're not firing her.
No, but still, okay. She's very territorial.
But you're going to be a
podcast. I know, I'm just trying to figure out how to book myself flights on your private plane.
You know, when the podcast grows, if you're helping to make all my companies, lots of
money. I will do that. You will or won't I will?
Okay then maybe that's a good reason please. Like mission is
purchase his drugs off of his drug site right now cos plus
drugs.com. Yeah. I thought purchase all the traffic going to sell and get advertisers
cost-plus. Drugs.com, okay, please go. And do you have like a referral place that people can put? How are they going to know? They came?
How are you gonna know
that? You won't because we don't we haven't spent a nick. No, but I want
people to know, but I sense that, you know,
when they sign up and save money, then they can just comment under your podcast and just say, hey thanks for connecting me to cos plus
drive. Please do that. You guys because I'm trying to fly private,
so there you go. That's the way we're gonna
cost plus.com. Yeah, cause plus drugs.com,
and when you go to Mark Cuban.com,
You'll see, like, I've got a whole bunch of different
companies, and only shop at companies that Mark Cuban owns because he will probably invest in my podcast. If you do
that, you know what? That's the way the do it. See? Okay, that's good business. Thank you. Yeah. So when you get, when you help companies sell more stuff, okay. Whatever is they sell? Yeah, you're gonna get them, they advertise because they don't want to lose the sales that you
generate for them. Okay. And then I'm Gonna Fly private
and then you'll be able to fly private on your plane on my planar, your
Playing with better, it'll be a billionaire, right? And you're going one
day, yeah, for sure. I will be a billionaire one day. One day, as people are going to crop this clip out of this interview and they're going to be like, oh look, she manifested it. Do believe in manifesting things. Um, know what,
y know, I believe in. I believe in setting goals for sure.
Why not manifesting
things, because I think that's bullshit.
That's not fair. I manifested this podcast and it worked.
Well, we also have a great agent that I'm friends
with. No, that's not. He didn't help. He helped with your up.
I said he hasn't helped with anything
else, okay? Yeah, nope, I'm not big on manifesting, but I am big on busting ass and grinding. Yeah, well, I should be disappointed.
I manifested where I am at today.
That's good if it works. That's all the matters
again at manifesting,
what's your next
manifest? A private plane private plan. I'd love to fly private some time
you get there for sure.
Yeah, hopefully next week so I don't have to look at this.
Okay? An effective it could
happen. Yeah, I am.
And what happens if it doesn't
happen +
ox but then does that mean
manifest so far? None of the stuff that I have manifested have like has not come true. Everything's come true
so much so that means you will be on a private plane next week. Hmm. And if it doesn't happen, is that me manifesting doesn't work.
Yeah. Unfortunately.
Well,
well then I'll give you a call and I'll say, can you please please,
please, please to make it work. Don't be a, don't let down my manifesting, right?
I'll I think I'll go, I think you'll let me I don't even really know what manifesting means to be completely honest with you,
but if it works right? Yeah, I just say, thank you believe in karma. I
absolutely bleep. Damn. Is that why you try to be a good person
for sure? And I think that comes what that comes around. And I would however all this shit works, it can't hurt, right? Are you real?
Aegis. Not really. No. I mean, I'm I would even say I'm really spiritual. I mean, my attitude is I have no idea how it all works. That's true. But if you're a good person, things will turn out
that make sense. I'm religious. Are you are? I don't know, I don't know either, but I also know if there's a God, I want him to know that I never doubted him for a
second. So let's see if there's a God. I figured he's going to know exactly what's in my head. Anyways, that's true. And so you don't need to go someplace to tell him or her. Yeah.
Yeah, that you know it'll be figured
out. Yeah, I'm
I just try to do the right thing when I can and does mean I always do, but that's the least I try. That's good. Don't you try
to be a good person?
Yeah. And you got to be when you got two young kids, right? Yeah. There's a
lot of shitty parents out there.
Yeah. But I mean, but
You're smart enough that you can kind of
you think I'm smart? Yeah, I do. Well, that's so nice of you. Yeah, you're welcome. Like the nicest thing you've said to me all day.
Yes, because you were mean to me early. So I have to kind of
balance that out. I was until you started off being mean. Like, I think the first thing you said to me was that I look like. I was 40 years
old.
Well, that to me that young
she was standing by Bots.
No, I was just playing. I look 40.
Not a day over. 25 years. 358 days.
Thank you for doing the math. I feel better about that. That's, that's nice of you. Do you what do you see for yourself the next ten years? You still gonna be
working? Yeah, just because I like what I do and I like having an impact and I like disrupting things and having money. Yeah, I mean,
I guess the money won't go anywhere if we start.
It's not about making money anymore because my next dollar is not going to change my
life. That's true. But
I would love to feel that.
Yeah, I mean, but, but it more about my kids because that's frightening, you
know. I think you've made enough money for them to also see
several it. No, I'm not trying to, it's not about money for them. It's just about hoping things. Work out for them,
right? I'm sure there's no possible way, no scenario in which things don't work out for your
kids. I don't know there's a lot of rich people with fucked-up kids you know? So that he's a good kid but you just never know. Yeah, scares me.
I
I would almost bet my life. Their kids are fine
and I'm hoping my wife hopes but usually it's terrifying. You know? I mean just look at all the things you think about with your two kids? Yeah. You know what are they going to be like in everything you see in them? You kind of project into something else right there doing this. And that must mean this and all I got to be careful about that. And, you know, that's, that's part of the job of parenting and doesn't matter what you do or don't have that terrorists with you, you know, no matter what. And as they get older, and they leave.
The house, and then they drive. What's a country song? Next thing you know you're going to sing it. No. But you know what song? I'm talking. No,
you have to sing it, but I think song sing it. Sing it.
Next thing you know keep going. That's all I know. That's the only word. I know words. I know, that's really good. Yeah,
I can tell you really like that song. Yeah, it's all I cannot ruin
of Entry, but Mom, my kids are,
you sound like you'd be in the country? No, I used to be if I can accent that sounds like you should sing a country song and you should sing a wall.
Yeah.
No, I used to say, ABC, anything but country but now my kids have kind of got me into it and they play it all the time and so there's this song next thing. You know, that's really good as a parent. Now you'll listen to that go. Okay, I get it.
I I hope I hope that happens to me.
I don't even know who sings
it. Yeah you're not a country fan at all. These are you really do sound like you'd
Do you live in Texas? And you
see I know it's really weird because I grew up in
Pittsburgh. I heard. I did you do that? Why did you get a country
accent? I don't know. I don't think I do but my friend sometimes think I do. Have you ever heard of Pittsburgh accent? Know where you from? Originally tear, California? L.a.
California. Yeah,
so in Pittsburgh, they'll say like, Jen's guys, going downtown, hang around, South Side, g chat. I don't even know what you just said. I said you guys going down to the South side and hang around and did you eat yet? Okay, G Chet. That's
Not how I would do that. I would never have got that. That's Pittsburgh accent. Okay. And you I don't you have that. My mom did I do, are you making up your accent on right now? No, for real, aliens are accent. Pittsburgh accent. You're making up the Texas. I don't know know like why do you have that? Because I've lived in Texas for a long time. How long since I was 24
So you just took their accent, it kind of grew on me yet and so I found one. Yes, you grew up in Texas. Yeah. Oh dear kids talk like you. I feel like you need like a toothpick in your own country. If I closed my eyes, I just picture you real. Yeah. No, I'm not country at all. If I close my eyes, I picture you with a toothpick, a cowboy hat, and just let you know, being chilled. That's all. Yeah. And your you work out. What's that?
Work out though, a lot,
not enough sometimes, but yeah, I try to, I don't. Yeah, we, you know, you get away with it. I
can't.
Fire and say it look like I don't work out but it's okay. I think I
can be nice. I just you know,
you want to be if I want to be. Yeah. Why do you work out so much?
Just try to stay in shape and stay alive. Yeah, try to stay alive. That's good point. Just I've used my body for a lot of years now, I got to make up for
it. What do you do to a view that
played rugby played Sports, you know, drugs, I've done drugs, the drug some when I was a kid but not so much. Yeah.
When's the last time you did
drugs? Oh God decades ago
there's no cops watching this right now you can just say
yeah for real I had some friends that really got fucked up so I was just like no I don't want to go in that direction.
That's good. Yeah, I'm glad you don't do drugs. Do you smoke
cigarettes? No. Not you ever probably in my entire life? Ten cigarettes. Do you drink alcohol? Not as much as I used to. But yeah.
Yeah,
yeah. But like Tito's and soda that's kind of my go.
Choose
to drink like separately or all together,
just depends on the
90-foot Bud, Light with Tito's.
And yeah, kind of like side-by-side,
sick and is 10. I thought you meant like, you mix them and I do drink. That's kind of
gross. What do you drink?
Um, whatever is handed to me.
Not like, like from strangers.
I don't drink drinks from strangers, that's smart, but whatever is handed to me, like people just had me drink sometimes and I drink them.
Like, where do people just and you drinks?
I don't know. I could borrow just people hitting me towards you. Go to. It's been a minute.
I've got to our Bento but we got young
kids. I have little kids. Yeah, I mostly just play with them every day of my life.
It's pretty boring, really? Yeah,
they got into the Wiggles yet
and I don't think they're relevant anymore.
Wheels aren't relevant. I thought I just saw somebody somewhere was telling me about their kids in there.
Nope, I don't think so. The Wiggles were a blast. Now we're all about
Peppa Pig and Peppa Pig. Yeah. Peppa Pig zard our Jam. Yeah. I don't really get to do anything fun of her because I just hang out with my kids every day of my life.
Yeah. That's the way it
works. I fun until they're not.
Yeah,
I go sleep with them.
That's okay dear. I used to
wonder they stopped sleeping in your bed.
My oldest daughter. Probably when she was 6, she couldn't get rid of her. My middle daughter really wasn't into it in my son, probably when he was 45 and my middle daughter is the most independent in that way.
My second daughter is the same, but my first daughter is never going to ever become a one-person simple. Just so herself to me.
She would so herself to me.
It's fun.
Yeah. Then you'll miss those days but
I just got a tattoo of her right before I came here. That's cool. Those are my kids. All those your kids? That's yeah, it's a back of their heads,
why the back of their heads
because I don't show the front of their faces when I was like, I'm not going to put but front of their faces on my arm because then everybody's gonna see it. Yeah. And I would have to hide the every time so I got the back of their heads on me so let's just have them, you know, because they're like little sisters.
That's cute. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah.
You have tattoos? No. Well, I
just wasn't into it. Like when I grew up, your dad had tattoos and his Navy. Buddies had tattoos. And like, the old men had tattoos. It
was not - why don't you got one now? Just not into
it. Don't I get a friendship one of, you know, why it's not in too, because everybody's gotta get that tattoo. You know, judging me. No, you be you, right? I don't care. But I
just noticed that you're different.
Yeah. Like to
you're not this, you know, like everyone
else.
Exactly.
Hmm. I was mocking you. I know. Okay.
Glad we've got, you know that. Yeah, get it out to you. Mark wanted to stop a little bit.
I don't
want to get us. Leave get a sleazeball. Look pretty cool. What would this leave be of this bunch of random
stuff just random shit face. Your face right there. I think you should do it. Imagine coming home and my wife gone. What did you just do? Whose face is a face on there too? It's like Bobby's and Bobby's on one arm and you're on the other on baby. Yeah, why not? I really do think that you should get a sleeve though that have my style before you Dad before you die, before I die.
Nope, not gonna happen just once leave. Not even a half asleep. Some neck. Tattoos. Know why do people get neck and face tattoos? I don't get
that. I want a neck tattoo. Why? Because it's cute.
Little butterfly right there.
It's, maybe a butterfly, but yeah, but just not my not my thing.
Yeah. There's, they're fun just like right all over.
I'll have my kids draw some on me, too.
I'd rather just take a pen and I can clean it up. When it's over, just get one. Nah, not gonna happen.
Okay, your kids got
them,
it's up to them. I mean, they got to make their own call, but yeah, I wouldn't like it if they got tattoos honestly but but that's there, that's up to them. That's good. Yeah,
I'm gonna encourage them to you. If you guys are watching this in your Mark Cuban skids, you should get a few tattoos.
Don't look at your kids like that, you're trying to get the intimidate them. You can do it guys. I said, so what is that? What is that face? That, I don't think it works. It doesn't I don't think that's ever worked for you. No. No, I'll mark your a very stingy, a billionaire.
You haven't offered me anything today? Nope. No.
I've offered to help you. That's true, I've offered to help you,
okay?
And since I don't, it's like you said, I don't like barge in on your manifesting, so you get all the Manifest energy. Okay? That's helping.
Okay.
If you could just hope ways you could give me a billion dollars right now and it probably wouldn't even affect you.
Yeah. Would mmm.
Fun. Five million dollars will go
small.
Five million.
I could buy a house Southern California.
Yeah, but then you'd have to pay all those taxes.
I'll pay the taxes. I promise I'm not going to complain about the
Tigers will be revenue from your
podcast. I will eventually have revenue from my
pocket. If you don't then they take the house back and I gave you 5 million for nothing
Mark. Let's just see what happens. No, let's just try it. I'm
protecting you Bobby. I'm protective like that but there's ways friends were birthday like soul
mates. Okay, well, can you buy me like a designer bag?
Real one
obviously, why obviously, why would you buy me a fake one year? Mark Cuban?
Because no one's going to know. I don't know. I don't. Why
would you buy your wife a fake to design around?
Buys our own stuff? Yeah, she's really
independent. Okay, so buy me one. No, yes, no, yes, no. Okay. Well, thank you, Mark, for coming on, to my podcast today. Is there anything else you'd like to tell the
listeners?
It's been fun. It's been different. It's been interesting. I liked it,
okay, thank you. The the fun, the different and the interesting, I think you could have left without that. Maybe try that again.
No, it's good. That's, that's a positive. Oh yeah, because I mean, I've done lots of interviews. This is very unique, I like that.
Thank you. You're welcome. I'm glad you saw on the floor today.
I'm glad I got that off
her. I hope that you find some billionaires that want to invest invest in my
podcast. I told you I help you though. You are. Yeah.
You, I told you help yourself. Okay, you figure out whoo which one of the companies that could benefit that you think fits your audience the best. Okay. And I'll show you. What comes next? Okay, deal. Let's make each other richer. I'll make you rich. No, I don't want to make that commitment because you'd be like
You already said it and we I'm going to cut it after. It's just gonna be not rich. And then I'm just gonna, how much do you edit this all? All the way I can make you say whatever I want you to say.
I've had that happen to,
so you're just gonna make me Rich. And, and with that said, I'm out. No. And with, that was, what do you say? I'm drunk
tank. So for those reasons, for those Reasons, I'm out.
Yeah. Okay. Let's start over. And for those Reasons, I'm out Mark. The actually, can you say that tender
for those reasons? We're out.
No, that's good. Is that a good
contact? I think that's a good end. Okay, you can try it one more time and then we can be done
for those reasons. We're out.
Yeah, we are. I had no money to invest in it to begin with but thank you Mark for coming today.
