And when you see a big company, like 1-800, Flowers are Heineken. So, a company that has millions of customers when they say one or two lines, like
that, that gets me really
interested.
I feel like I can rule the world. I know I could be what I want to be like, all right, we're live. Sean is not here. So I'm going to do a
question and answer session. I tweeted out that I'm going to be doing this and we have a bunch of questions. Jonathan's going to be reading. The first ones. What are they? Which where you want to start? All right. This one is from Jimbo slice. Egos would love to learn
how to develop ideas.
Ideas for businesses to start and how to
test set ideas.
So basically because of this podcast, I
have to research cool
companies, but what a lot of people don't know is, I've been doing research on
companies before I worked on this podcast, voice to this podcast and this is how I created the hustle. We ended up selling the hustle for tens of billions of dollars. And this is how he created Hampton, which is going to be a huge company I think, and I've done a bunch of other little projects based off this research model.
I'll do a quick plug. Basically, if you go to ideation bootcamp dotco,
everyone kept asking me about this process. So I like made into a course, you can go and buy it if you want. I'll just kind of give you a little preview. Now, I've got this way of researching where I look for five or six different things
and it's almost like the way that I compare it to a
song. So there's a song called,
you know, like a Guns and
Roses song like Welcome To Paradise,
then what's called Sweet Child of Mine. That's what I'm thinking. Sweet, Child O, Mine.
My Sweet Child O. Mine has this amazing
guitar solo in that
song. And the band said that the someone asked them how they write songs and like well sometimes like which Sweet Child of Mine. I heard this amazing
guitar riff that / was
tinkering with, and I wrote lyrics around it and then we created the bridge and the hook and whatever. Other times I've got this really cool. One liner, this lyric, we're going to turn it into the song, I do the same thing with business and so those little hooks that I
look for are the first thing is demand,
So I'm constantly
seeking out what problems people have. The second
thing is, I'm constantly looking at how many people share that particular problem and I'm going to give examples of all this, the third thing, I look at is who are the leaders in that space. So what's succeeding and why, the fourth thing I look at is of the leaders and the people in the space. What shortcomings do they have? Next, I look at which business models are most effective.
And then finally, I look at
what problems are being solved.
I'm going to give you an example of this and so I have all these tools
that I use and so like, here's a, here's an example.
So there's this company
called 1-800 Flowers and it's a phone service, where you call and you order flowers, and I was just like, probably buying Valentine's Day flowers on their website, one time.
And I noticed that their traffic I use this
tool called similar
If I use that all the time, it's a
plug-in. It's free. They have a paid
version, the free versions, totally fine. They have this plug-in where it tells you a guesstimate of what the traffic is from a website and 1-800 Flowers. As
predicted it had like pretty great traffic. Like it was like 5 million people a month coming their website and then in February it like Pete to be really, really big. That's easy
to guess because it was Valentine's Day but basically
it was that told me that while a lot of people
are using 1-800 Flowers on a
Their bases and it peaks in February and it also had a big jump in whenever mothers day is May or June. And so I was like alright that's interesting. I
kind of knew that, but let me read a little bit more about this. And so I use another tool
called annual reports.com
and I love reading in or reports because it teaches me about the company. So an annual report if a company is public, they have to release this quarterly report where they talk about their
earnings and all these in,
arresting things about the
company and a lot of time they appear boring, but I'm reading them to find insight and I found this one Insight that
said
We are noticing that the succulent
plant is very particular player. We are
noticing that amongst our Millennial consumers. It's the fastest growing Trend. I also did this with Heineken the company. Heineken they and their annual report they said Heineken 0 so which is like a non-alcoholic version.
They are, it's our fastest growing segment.
It's still really
small, but it's fast growing.
And when you see a big company, like 1-800, Flowers are Heineken. So, a company that has millions of customers when they say one or two lines. Like that, that gets me really interested.
When I say something's fast-growing, I'm like, oh I'm intrigued. And so I'll
read these reports just for looking for one or two lines that say that or I'll use I'll go to like every website I go to if it's like really weird looking and it grabs my attention. I go to
Similar web and I just look at what the traffic is. Because I'm looking for these one little tidbits that catch my attention. And in this case, for the 1-800 Flowers, if they said
succulents were growing and so I'll look at, you know, what they say and then I'd try to find shortcomings. So with 1-800 Flowers, they said that their shortcomings are they that most of the revenue comes from holidays. And so they're trying to get revenue and business between the holidays to make their business more steady. They also said that I believe,
This was a few years ago, they said that most of their profit
comes from, not the flowers, but from vases. So that has the biggest margins and they also said that they are trying to think of ways to get people to buy more accessories, like, vases, chocolates, and things like that.
And then, so, that kind of, like, gave me this idea of like, okay, 1-800 Flowers is a big business because the revenues to Janet
gets tons of traffic. I know that. So that's like proving me that there's demand a big audience.
I know that they're succeeding
at
To some point because they're publicly traded company and they're very profitable. I know their shortcomings or the problems that we're trying to solve for our that they can't get people to buy stuff on a regular basis. And they want people to buy more
vases. So what other problems are consumers,
not being not
do consumers, have that aren't being solved, and where's 1-800 Flowers failing? Well, in my head I was like, well, if you could figure out a way to get people to buy regularly with different faces, how can I do that? And so I wrote this report.
For Trends, trends, that Co. And then someone eventually launched a company where they created the succulent plant that you like smack on the wall. And it is like, has this like hydrophonic system tonic system where, like, like water itself and then there is another company that launched and they and they created the coolest, it was a succulent plant and some of them launch. These companies based off our report, I wrote another company created this business where they had these like, amazing pots and bases wire it had like artists on there. So like Frida, Kahlo
On one or they would treat like really funny pots and plants like some of the pots were, like, State themed. So, like an organ plant-like had like, an organ flag on the vase, like, things like
that. And that was their way of solving it and a bunch of these companies. A few of them went on to raise millions of millions of dollars. I think there's Bloom scape and I forget the other one, but
It basically came from this like research methodology
of finding demand, finding the
audience, looking at the leaders. The shortcomings, that it's just, like, cycle that I use and I try to
find like
one hook or one line for each of those things that get me interested. So, I use similarweb a ton to do that. So I look at where someone's getting a lot of traffic or how much traffic is getting. There's just another amazing thing called companies house. It's a so basically, if your base in the UK and you're a company that does at least 10 million in Revenue, you have to file
I'll your your financials. And so, if I find a cool company that uses the word LTD, I guess that means like limited company. If I find a company that does something like that has that on their website. I immediately go to companies house. What? So, for example, I found this amazing website that basically basically was reviewing vpns. You don't have VPN is, it's like a thing that hides like where you are when you're using the web and they had like 12 million visitors to their site and I was like
That's interesting and the company was called like something company name LTD. So I go. All right I'm going to go straight to companies house and see what the revenue is. Their revenue was like 18 million and their profit was like
16 million. And so that told me that a there's demand for people who want to get reviews for vpm. That shocks me, I didn't realize that market was that
big be? It shows me that that business model of affiliate so they made money through affiliate. So they would write a
review on a they would write a
Review on a VPN. If someone bought it, they got a
little cut back that business model, super
fascinating. So in my head I'm like, oh wow, what other Tech products are
have this big affiliate fees
and can I create content for them? That business model was really fascinating
and see, I learned that they were the leader in the space and so like that just like, opened up my mind to, like a different business model and a different Niche. And I didn't do
anything with that. But I thought to myself, man, I wonder if I could do this for payroll software. I wonder how many people are having payroll software problems. I bet you. I can get a big affiliates.
With that, I bet you I could rank on search for that and then I never end up doing it because I was passionate about it. But anyway I go through all these different examples and of like these different tools that I use to research on a thi boot camp. It's ideation boot camp .ko but that's like a very scattered example of how I do that. All right, this one is from Mike. Terra Bella. He asks about the evolution of your health Journey while being an entrepreneur. He goes, I've been lifting to get back in shape and just
Us of lessons or future roadblocks to watch out
for. So this is around fitness and health. So let me give you guys some background. So I was
an exceptional High School athlete. I was one of the best in the state of Missouri, where I'm from the 200 M and
400 meter dash. And then I went to a division one school where I was a scholarship athlete for two years and then I quit and I got into business and between the ages of 20 to about 28. I was fat. I was pretty lumpy and I was pretty disgusting.
Now is a good time to put the my before picture. So, if you're on listen to this on audio, you can go ahead and
see. You can go to our YouTube and see those pictures, but I got pretty
fat and I got discussing and then about three or four years ago I
said this is it I'm going to get my act together and I'm going to become a fitness model, that's what I said. It was a joke, I'm not
actually that but it was a joke and I did it. I got pretty fit and so I basically created this rule, the general Mathis, he's this General.
America. He's got this great line that says, figure out your flat
ass rules and stick to them.
And the reason being and I stole it from Ryan holiday whose inspiration to me. He said, the person who decides every day. What choices they have to make for each decision. That person will be exhausted and burnt out. And so about when I was 29, 28 years old, I made the decision that I will
never ever ever miss a workout.
And so at first, I basically created programming for myself, which means I created my own schedule, my own lifts and like, how much I should
I did that on my own for a little while and then I hired a trainer. His name is Jesse
O'Brien at Central athlete. I think I've got a central athlete.com. You can see, I'm not affiliated. I'm just a fan and he created all my training for me, and I meet with them monthly and I do
the workouts remotely, but basically, I don't miss a
single workout and I have, I
work out five days a
week. And I, so that's
five days times 52. I think that's 260 workouts. And the last two years, three years. I've probably have missed five to ten years
And that's usually only because of sickness or like, if someone dies, and have to take a flight to a funeral, but basically
95% of the time I don't miss.
And so I believe, big, big, big, big, big time
into consistency. So I don't miss
the second thing that I do, and by the way, that like that, I'm fairly extreme about it. So, for example,
I drive a ton. So, like, when I go and I take tons of road trips when I take a road trip, and I can't get my workout in the morning
before I leave, I pull over on the side.
The road, I tell, Jesse today is a travel day. I'm going to be driving and I bring bands with me and I pull
over on truck stop. I got lots of
pictures and videos of me sending my wife saying I'm at this particular truck stop. I'm doing push-ups for peace prints, things like that. I will pull over on the side of the road for an hour and do it. I do not miss workouts. The
second thing that I do is I set very specific goals. So each quarter Revenue goal. So those goals have included, like I wanted
to benchpress 330 pounds and I want to squat for her 30 pounds
and I'll take a quarter sometimes too.
Quarters to get there.
The next time I've had a goal of doing a combine and I wanted to score average for an NFL receiver, which I think was like a 45 40, a 34 inch vertical, a 10-4, broad jump, and then bench-pressing 225 pounds times 16 times, I think whatever it was, I pick goals every quarter and I stick to them because I need to have a goal. I don't always hit my goal. Sometimes. I most of the time I do but I, but I always have a goal that I'm trying to do
for me.
Right now and I imagined for the rest of my life it's going to all be centered around weight
lifting because a
I want to live to like I'm 130 and there seems to be a strong correlation between living long
and having muscle like because it I can just not break my hip
when I fall because my bones will be stronger and I can get up when I get
hurt
and also be because I want to look good
naked. I'm vain. So that's why I do it. So I lift a ton of weights and I have a coach that tells me what to do and I basically don't question them. I also use my body
Etutor no
affiliation with them other than I've become friends with them and that
helps me with my dieting. So I
spend roughly three hundred dollars a month on training and I think $250 a month on my body tutor. It's basically a nutritionist.
They call me once a week in the keep me on track. And then
finally, I write down everything I eat and I write down every
workout. So I use an app where I track all of my workouts because I want to know what I did the previous week, so I can improve. And then I track everything I eat because
it's really easy for me to overeat and
Tracking, it helps me. This person asked what future roadblocks will be
everyone. I don't have a kid yet, I but we are pregnant. Everyone says that, that will be a
roadblock. I'm in a very fortunate situation where I've been able to hire some help like a night nurse and things like that.
I have a feeling that it won't be a roadblock,
but it will be more challenging but it's not going to prevent me. Did I answer that question? Yeah, for sure. All right, this one is from John Murphy at e-comm CEO.
So he asks, when to embrace shiny object syndrome in win and how to keep it under control, this is a great question. And this is something that I think holds back 90% of people from really big success. So I constantly ask myself, what can I do this week? This month this year?
What can I accomplish in a certain time? Period, that will make every other tasks not important. And so there's this idea of like procrastination. Paul Graham wrote this great article. If you Google Paul Graham procrastination, he talks about, there's actually good presentation, there's bad press Keynesian procrastination. The bad type is you're just not going to, you just don't start working. But the good type is that it's like the idea of this crazy scientist who's a genius and he forgets to shower or he forgets to wear two matching socks and the idea being
You can actually ignore most things as long as you're getting the big things, right? And so I ask myself all the time, what is that one thing that I want to accomplish? Most people? They try to jump from thing to thing to thing? Because something's not working or because they feel pressured into doing something. I actually think that you should do one thing for an extended period of time. The reason being is because every time I say yes to something, I'm
ultimately saying no to something else and that
means I'm saying if I'm saying yes
to a new project I'm saying,
No, to either things like family time or I'm saying
no to focusing on the thing that matters or I'm saying
no to having. Like I'm
basically giving worried or worry time and I'm giving space in my brain for something that isn't essential. And so saying no is really important, it's very uncomfortable, but I think it's necessary. I think most people do multiple things at one time because they are guilted into it because what they see online and I try to remind myself that
I don't care about another person's opinion, more than I care about my own opinion
and also most people don't know what they're
doing. And so I'm not going to put too much judgment on their opinion because they don't have any idea what they're doing. I also try to remind myself that strong men,
they don't like, give into fear and I think a lot of people have shiny object syndrome because they're fearful that their main
things, not going to work. I try not to give into fear. Of course, I'm human. I do every once in a while but I try my hardest not to do it and so,
I think that.
When you're starting a business is a business podcast, we'll talk about that. I I have to ask myself. Well, I wish that I have stuck with this in ten years, why I look back and say I wish I would have done this one thing and if the answer is consistently, yes, and I'm going to stick to that one thing that said, it's definitely an art to figure out what to say no to and when to bail on what's working. But I've met a lot of successful people
and I have noticed that the people that have huge outside, outsize results,
And have massive, massive wealth. It typically
comes from one thing and then once they get incredibly successful, it appears as though they have a lot of things going on, but
those lot of things are like 5% of the hundred percent when it comes to net worth creation.
And so, I have to remind myself on a regular basis, that big results, typically come from one thing in the people who appear to be, to be doing a lot of things.
They actually kind of are doing one thing, one of my good friends and your well Kansan, the owns a private Equity company or E owns, a thing called tiny, where they buy businesses. And so he owns technically like 40 businesses, but his one thing is buying companies or investing. And so
you have to remind myself, I have to remind myself. That's
his one thing and he's doing that well and
that's what makes everything
else work. Additionally, he also had one agency
metal AB for I think 12 years and then he
started investing into other companies. And so you have to make your one thing.
Work. Otherwise, the rest of the stuff doesn't really work out. And so I
think more people should focus even though it's quite challenging and it doesn't appear as fun. I think it's better results.
Okay, this one is from Gabe. Phenomena at Gabe underscore fin on Twitter. He asks how to be interesting as a podcaster. You're essentially a professional Entertainer. What are the keys skills? You've learned over the years that allow you to be entertaining to listen to and talk to
this question is, I think particularly
interesting for young men, single men because when I was a single guy, when I was 14 15 and 16, well, basically, until I was not
single.
All I cared about was meeting girls and what I learned and I wasn't very good at it. Arguably was never great at it, but I improved the best
thing for meeting a partner was to be an interesting person. I
imagine this works for women as well, but I only know a man's perspective. It works. Also for men is to be
interesting.
I made a few
points about how to be interesting, at least what I think, how to be interesting because I like figure this out. I wasn't like good at this.
The first thing is that you have to find something that interests
You and you have to turn it into a passion
even if it's not popular,
the reason being is people like people who
are passionate about stuff and who are really great at explaining,
why they're passionate about things and they don't need to be popular thing. So, for a long time, I was really interested in denim. That's like, a hobby of mine. I loved
jeans because jeans are
part of American history, and I would like by like five hundred or thousand dollar jeans, just to store them and keep them in only wear them occasionally because there,
Historical and important to me. I was really, really, really fascinated in that. And I noticed that when I would meet a girl and I would say something like, hey, I'm going to this swap meet. They got really cool Dedham just having something to do, and like being passionate about it, it attracts she was more attracted to me because of it and then my male friends as well. We're like, oh, this sounds interesting. You just got me interested in this topic, I'll go with you and you could explain it to me and thus people were attracted to me, this works for business, for meeting someone, whatever right now it's Fitness, I'm super
Fitness and having like a goal and
having something I care about. I've noticed, people are drawn to me. The second one is when
I can, I consume a ton of information. So I
listen to podcasts. I
watch a lot of TV, like
documentaries. I read a lot of books, and I read Wikipedia every night, I love Wikipedia. And when I'm consuming information, I
consume it from the perspective of, I try to find a hook. So I'll hear like, or I'll read something on Wikipedia and I try to find a fascinating.
Hook and I think in my brain, how can I retell this? That can capture people's attention
and whenever I consume information, that's what I do. So for
example, I just watched the documentary on
Arnold Schwarzenegger and he has
this great line where he calls the Shmi, which basically
means bullshit. So like when he was talking about being the spokesperson for
supplement brands or whatever or wining and dining people he goes I got the shush me, I know how to like, grab people's attention, I'm just bullshit with them. I got to get the Gap and he told the story of the Shmi. And I remember hearing that line ago,
That's brilliant. The should be. I'm going to talk about that all the time. I love the Shmi and that was that one little line I took from that documentary and I'm going to retell that story all the time. I'm going to talk all about the shammi and so whenever I consume information, I'm just for a comedy show or anything. I just look for like lines or hooks of a story that I'm going to retell to people constantly. I'm going to steal it. Basically, it does it. It's I consume information as if I
have to write a book report at it at another time.
The third thing is, I ask people all the time and I asked them this
in a
Very non-judgmental way. And a lot of people aren't used to being asked this, but I basically asked them all the time. Whenever they, I'll ask them about what they do for work, or where they're from, or whatever and they'll say something and I'll say an opinion and I always
ask them. Why do you think that? And I always try to ask that because it gets people to open up and when I asked them all about themselves, there's this great book called How
to Win, Friends and Influence People and Dale Carnegie wrote it in the 1920s and he
says, this tells a story about
This
kind of nobody young guy, talking to this big shot executive and the
nobody guy, the young guy. He asked a big-shot executive all about
himself and the executive spends
95% of the conversation. Talking about himself, the young guy, spends five percent the conversation, at the end of the
conversation, the executive goes,
wow! You're a great conversationalist. And the truth is that that's because people love to talk about themselves. And so oftentimes, when I'm with new people I'll ask them questions. Like why do you think that or why do you do that or questions like that? These oh,
Open-ended questions and that gives them an opportunity to talk about themselves. And thus, they think that I am more interesting because
ultimately they find themselves. Probably more interesting than anyone else.
Another thing is, I tried really hard to learn how to tell
stories. My partner in this podcast, Sean Perry, he's one of the best storytellers I've seen. I've tried to learn from him and I've tried to tell stories and I'll re tell the same stories, different groups
of people as if I'm a comedian and I like to see what hits and what doesn't and sometimes I'll alter the story while keeping the truth and there, but also the story in the way I
Outlet in order to capture their attention.
The last two things are. I am constantly trying to improve myself, which is great because
to be interesting. You just make yourself better.
So I'm constantly trying to improve myself and I explain to people what I'm trying to do. So, for example, if I'm trying to get fit, if I'm trying to read a certain amount
of books, if I'm trying to
build a business, I'm always trying to improve myself. And I talked about that with people not an obnoxious way but I let them know and they find that interesting. I found
most of the time and then
Ali. I say my opinion and I usually research opinions that I have. So for example it could be like political stuff, it could be Health stuff, it could be in business, I try to come up with the well-thought-out opinions and I'm very not afraid to say that opinion and even if it rubs people the wrong way I have found that when you explain your opinion and you stand firm on it. It you people find you interesting because most people are vanilla and they don't have strong opinions. And so
That said I'm so open minded, I think there's a phrase, what's that phrase? It's a strong beliefs loosely held and so I'm I can be swayed for sure but I try have strong opinions that I try to let people know about them and then when I don't have an opinion or I haven't research a topic, I try my hardest to say I've not thought about that or I don't know. And so that's how I think you'd be interesting. When we have different podcasts guests, come on. Even if they're not in my world at all.
Because I've like, consume so much information. I'm pretty good at relating to them and that is just comes down to. I just read a ton of Wikipedia and when they talk, I'll reference things in that field. Even if I don't know a ton about them and then
I'll ask them why they think that? Because I read on Wikipedia that this this and
this is that true for you. Is that is that one of the reasons why you think X Y and Z? And they'll say no
actually or Yes
actually
Yeah. And that's a great way to get them to talk more about it and it gets me involved in the conversation. All right, so I back channeled, a few questions. This one is from your buddy Neville Medora at Neville Medora on Twitter and he wanted to hear a bit about your loyalty to your dog. Sid. He had a quote to share that I thought was pretty great. He goes. I remember Sam vividly saying. I hate when people give away their pets, when you sign up for a dog you sign up for life. So never wants to hear a bit about your
Relationship to Sid and just if you could elaborate on that quote a bit. Yeah. So basically, I have this dog named Sid. I got them when I was 20 or 22 or something. He's 14 years old now and I do crazy stuff for this dog. Like, for example, I live half the year sometimes in New York and sometimes I'll fly sometimes I'll drive, but if I fly, I hire a driver for him. So I basically hire someone to drive him from Austin all the way up to New York.
And like, I don't travel because of him overseas, typically. And so, the reason being is I mentioned having rules, another
rule in my book is responsibility and loyalty. So there's a few people, in my
life, my wife, my dog, my business partner, Joe, Sean's one of these folks, Jordan, the CEO of Hampton
I firmly believe that you never ever ever speak badly about them behind their back, you don't lie, you don't disrespect them publicly. You don't question them publicly and I try my hardest not to do that even a little bit. The reason being is
I'm a firm belief in loyalty and
so there's I basically have zero loyalty to most people and then there's like eight people in my life. My life, who I like, I can like write them down. It's like them. I would do anything for them and I expect them
Um, to do that for me.
The second reason is responsibility. So, like when I have a meeting on my calendar, I try my hardest never ever, ever to be late. I try very hard to be early. I don't miss things. If I say I'm going to do something, I do it. I'm a big firm believer. And you do it yusei and
Following through. And so another rule is, when you have a responsibility to stick with it, no matter what. When I got my dog, I said I'm going to raise them, right? And I'm going to like, respect this this like bond that we have. And so I'm crazy about that. So that's a rule that I just don't. Break is loyalty and rules. Love it. All right, this one is from Garrett's his handles at Gigi S III and he goes finding someone to
To build a company with, or finding your first hire. So basically you just asking how you hire people.
So I'm not like a religious person but there's this thing from the Bible, I went to Catholic School my whole life. There's just like a line from the Bible
where like Jesus is trying to like get disciples and he tells one of his disciples Peter and Paul. He goes like I think they're fisherman and he goes, come
join me and you are going to be
Fishers of Men. And I love that line that's an example by the way of being interesting. You
Just find like interesting lines and you you know you re tell them that's a beautiful line and the way that I'm able to hire good CEOs and hire great people. I mean, if you look at the hustle,
I don't know how many people we had when we sold the company may be 40, so we probably have hired 60 or 70 people.
A lot of them are really successful now like we hired them when they were like 23. And a lot of them, maybe like 15 or 20 of them have went on start successful companies helped grow other. Successful companies have a name for
themselves and the reason they did that is
I wanted to be a collector of people. Fishers of Men, that's a weird line. I call it collector of people. So
I worked really hard at
collecting people and so
when I find someone that's
interesting to me, I try to make a mental note of who
Who they
are and how I can use them.
And the line that I tell them
from, this is a line that I believe which is like, hey, do you want to hang out? Like, let's
say, I meet someone, I'll follow up with them or I called email someone and I'll say, hey, look,
the best case
scenario here is that somehow we work together and we create Magic. The worst-case scenario is that you have a new friend in the industry and we'll just help one another. But our world is small and I have a feeling that it's going to be nice that we're going to be on the same team in some capacity. Whether just as
Are literally at the same company. So take this phone call
and that's what I believe. And so for years, so like for
example for years, I would host events or create excuses to meet people. So for example, I had this thing called the anti MBA, it was my book club. I started it in San Francisco and 2012. And basically, the way it worked is, I would
pick one book per month. We would read a quarter of the
book each month. And and then I we would meet up and talk about the book. And I would bring
Experts on that books
topic to come in and lead the conversation. So it's kind of like an MBA, but it was free and I
organized it. Hence, the anti MBA, a bunch of my great, great, great friends. Shawn in paree, we came in each other's orbit via this book club, see, Ava, who
kaczynski's got a really successful PE firm. Now came, he was
one of my first members I posted ads on Craigslist for this book club. That's how it got Popular. By the way, I posted an ad on meetup.com and on Craigslist
I would host his book club. Like what I think I did it for two years straight every week and that is how I developed a network and then from there I hosted a conference called hustle con and the whole idea was I'm
not sure what I'm going to do next after selling my previous company but I'm
going to host this event called hustle
Khan and in doing.
So I imagine I'm going to meet a
handful of people who will inspire me or partner with me in order to create my next thing. And
so I'm constantly. I do it less
now. Now I have jokingly have this rule called No New Friends.
I have a pretty good Network now,
but basically, I just collected people. And any time I saw someone who was intriguing, I did a really good job of getting to know them and then just filing
Moines this bank and I would check in with them once in a while and get to know them and remind them who I
was occasionally. And then when I had like an
opportunity, like I'm starting a new company, I
would think, oh, I talk to this one person. This one time I left a good impression on them. I hope I could just holler at them and so I do a really good job of collecting people and doing
Outreach.
Yeah, I mean that's kind of like how it works. It's a lot easier now that when you're popular and you have a podcast, it's way easier to do that. But when I was younger and didn't have a network, I hosted book clubs conferences meetups and I was basically wanting to be the center of attention. Not necessarily center of attention, but center of a Social Circle. And I was the connector and that's how I would collect people. And I, when I see, now, when I see people on LinkedIn or Twitter,
And they write something cool, IDM them and all I say it was like saw this post, this was awesome and that's all I'll say. And then when I reach out to them again,
if I ever have a reason to it kind
of feels like, they know me a little bit at
least and so I'm a collector of people.
Okay, this question is from Grant Wilkinson at Grant F Wilkinson. If you're open to sharing about the behind the scenes of running a great Community, there's some good stuff there. So I think grants referring to your community building over at Hampton. So, I've got this new company, it's about a year old, it's join Hampton dot-coms, URLs called Hampton basically. What it is, is it's for CEOs who have at least a million in revenue and you apply and then we interview and you get in, we put you in
a group of eight Founders who have similar size and types of businesses, you meet monthly and then we host all these events Retreats and then we have digital Community where you can hang out and talk to all the other members of which we have hundreds of them soon. Thousands.
I I got pretty great at making Community because of the events that I hosted a kind of understood like what motivated people.
And then I created
trends when we ran the hustle which was like a digital Community as well and there's a few interesting things about Community to make them great. The
first is you have to create fomo so a little bit of fear of missing out and once they're in your community, they feel excited that they're finally in. And so we create fomo not even on purpose.
This, we interview everyone and we turn down most people so that helps. So there needs to be a barrier to entry for building a good Community. I think there also has to be a way to create intimacy and so there's lots of tactical ways that you could do that where you have multiple communities within a community and like you can only Join one channel and not the other channels. And the reason you do that is because I think that around like 250 500 people things, get a little bit, wonky in terms of not being able to know everyone and so you
To do, you need to do a good job of making things intimate. The way you do that is to keep it small. Another way that you do that is you set norms and standards behind introductions and so it Hampton. We do a really good job of saying look at Hampton.
We want you to brag about who you are because with most most of the times when you run a company, it's not cool. When you're talking to people that say, like, oh, I run this company, we do this much in Revenue, this much profit. This is many employees. It's not that cool. It's all Tacky
in this community. We set lots of like strange Norms of which one of them is it's okay to brag and it's cool to brag because now I can learn if you actually know what you're talking about and I can ask you advice, I can actually learn about your business so I can apply some of
It. And so, it's fun to learn that stuff. And so we set different norms and we do a really good job of making people introduce themselves. A lot of times, particularly in Trends, by one of the first communities that I built, I would cede it by having 10 20, 30 people who I knew were impressive. And I just said you don't have to pay anything, but you're joining this community. Also, on this date, I need you to post this comment or this post it so it looks like this particular person was contributing in reality. I wrote it for them. This is a thing that I
I stole from Reddit when reddit.com first launched the founder. Steve Huffman created like 30 different usernames and you just posted lots of different fake comments and it looked like a lot of stuff is happening. Creating Community is hard. I think it's one of those things that everyone wants but few people know how to do it's really challenging. I think it's more art than science, though.
This question is, I'm going to totally butcher this name but sarong be Rod at Sarang. Be rod on Twitter. He asks, how's it going with viral Cuts? Share some tips for someone looking to start a productized service from scratch. So viral Cuts is a company that I'm part of. I don't have anything to do with the day-to-day but basically if you want foot it, like if you have a podcast like this or if you have a bunch of video footage, they chop it up.
Up and they post it on your social for you. So you get like Clips. The founder is Ames Hunter, he used to have an agency and he was like, you know, it's cool agencies are great, but when your agency is really Broad and you will do lots of services for lots of different clients and it's hard to focus on something. It's hard to operationalize something your margins kind of get crushed a little bit and it's just a lot more challenging. And so his whole thing was
We're just going to do clips. And then eventually now they're doing more stuff under a different company like they're doing. They're helping people write books or right, Twitter threads, I mean, they're helping people do a bunch of different stuff. They're helping people grow their YouTube but those are all different companies but viral Cuts. He was like I'm just going to productize this one service and so he did a really good job of hiring like 20 people and he taught them how to make the the clips and then he like created a very strict process on how to get the
Footage from people, how to chop it up, how to deliver them, and it was like very, very, very very operationalized from day one and it's going great. I don't remember exactly what we're allowed to say about how big it is, but it got to seven figures in Revenue in like 60 days most of which came because at first I tweeted it and that Cody Sanchez, another partner involved, she started sharing. And so now it's like well into the seven Figures, it's going great. You have to deal with a lot of headaches because it's a
Business. But and we're not sure how turn will be, but it's going really well. So far. The hardest part about these businesses is operationalizing the the service so making it. So it's like a conveyor belt. So your workers know exactly what to do and have very strict deadlines and then the second hardest part is getting customers viral Cuts, solve that problem by talking to me and Cody, and we just tweeted it out and within a very short amount of time. They had seven figures in Revenue, so it's going really
well. All right, so that was my rapid-fire Q&A.
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