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All right, we're rolling. Goodnight, sir. Are we go on? One of the things I wanted to talk to you about. I wanted to play this, but we decided we shouldn't play it because it could get copyright strike and we don't want to get the episode one. We don't want anybody to have any sort of way to get it down sure but it was the episode of you when you're on The View and I think it was 2015 or 2016 when you were running for president, right?
Right and you sat you got introduced as our friend Donald Trump. That's right. Whoopi. Goldberg gives you a big hug and a kiss Joy. Behar gives you a big hug Barbara Walters gives you a big hug. They all loved you. They were all talking about how your you might be. You might be conservative in your financial positions but you're very liberal socially. There were talking about you as such a favorable light.
The audience was cheering.
And then you actually started winning in the polls and then the machine started working towards you. Yeah. But it's, there's probably no one in history that I've ever seen, that's been attacked, the way you've been attacked, and the way they've done it. So coordinated and systematically. When you see those, same people in the past, very favorable to you, like, Oprah when you're on Oprah Show, very choose encouraging. You
last week, I did one of our last show is I think maybe Thursday or Friday.
That was a big deal being on Oprah. Show the last one and I was like one of the last shows in that last that final week and I said, boy we've come a long way since since that what was it like? Well, the concept it was really like two different lives. You know. I had a very wonderful life but I wanted to do this. The Apprentice was still going very strong, we had 12 seasons and we had actually 14 Seasons 12 years over. We had a
couple of the canceled, the
Prentiss when you were running for president. Correct.
Know they had Arnold Schwarzenegger do it. I was involved in that and I want I had enough of it and we did great, it was doing great but they wanted me to stay. They all came to see me. They said, we're going to give you a contract, they wanted to extend. My contract Mark Burnett is a great guy, then they wanted to extend the contract Mark said you're crazy, don't run, don't run, nobody gives a prime-time. They said, you know, it's one of those little things which is probably true. Nobody gives the rooms
President for, for running well for running against 20, some odd people, you know, turned out to be 1818. Professional people, you know, mostly politicians, they said, who would do this. I mean, it's a long shot, actually, the heads of NBC came over the pole to leg knee. All the all the top people came over to see me try and talk me out of it because they wanted to have me extend, The Apprentice was doing well, so is 14 Seasons who was 12 years. We had 12 Seasons where we had a double, which rarely happens. It was
Too hot show and I said you know, I want to do this. What happened is previously, like three years, four years before that, they did a poll, they had Mitt Romney and somehow they put me in a pole and I blew everybody away. I blew him away, which isn't that hard, frankly, but I blew everybody away and I said that's interesting because I never really gave it that much real thought I thought about it, but never really thought, but I saw these poles were very good and so I was thinking about doing it then, but I had a contract with the
S+. I was building to big buildings at the time and I wanted to make sure they got finished up properly and I was one of those things. The kids would just sort of getting involved are very capable kids but they were getting involved early on. So I did that. I got them done. I had some very good successes and I came on and then I thought about it for the next one, after the Romney disaster, and I ran and I won against Hillary and it was quite an experience, but it was a different life because you're right, the view, I was in the view of many.
Many times and they loved me just the way people would talk. I mean, even if
people had criticisms about you, people that didn't like you there was always feuds and stuff like that. But the reality was that thing turned on you, when they found out you were going to be president was very coordinated and some people are catching on to that. Now there's a lot of people that were longtime Democrats like, Elon and Bill Ackman and all these different very intelligent
people. They support me now Bill and its importance means, yes, very supportive to what
but this is what I wanted to ask
you, what was it like when you actually got in because nobody really can prepare you for that. When you're running for president, you don't really know what it's going to be. Like when you actually get into office, what was the, what did you think he was going to be an
office or when I decided to run?
So, you know, when you got in,
when I was saying, so what I was in and one and was in the White House essentially. Well, first of all, it was very surreal, I would imagine it's very interesting when I got shot. It wasn't so real. That should have been so,
When I was laying in the ground, I know exactly what was going on. I knew exactly where I was at. They were saying, you were hit all over the place because it was so much blood from the year. You would know that better than anyone when they get the ear
Torres. Bleed a lot
please. Anyway. So, and and I was thinking the other day. When when that happened, I really knew where I was, I knew exactly what happened. I said, I wasn't hit anywhere with the with the presidency. It was a very surreal experience, okay?
Okay. And
what's day one life?
So in? Yeah yet
inaugurated, holy shit on the president and that's what happened.
So I'm driving down Pennsylvania Avenue. I just built a building on pencil, you know, the hotel, the old post office, it was weed called at Trump National Hotel and we sold it to the Waldorf Astoria and it was a wonderful thing but I'm driving down on passing the hotel. You've never seen so many motorcycles police military, you know, is a major thing I
Get off. Really the first time I used Air Force One landed and we're coming down and they were it was very beautiful. I mean it was incredible and we're going down, Pennsylvania Avenue and the opposite direction. You know normally you're used to going one way and you all of a sudden you're going the other way. The street was loaded up and I wanted to go out and I wanted to wave to everybody, but that wasn't smart, you know, they can little bit dangerous right when you watch like, Kennedy.
Me and someone else, right? But I really felt. I don't know. The love was so crazy and so I did get out of the car for a brief, you know, just for a very short walk. I thought it was very important to do and Melania got out with her beautiful dress on that became sort of a staple. It was people loved it and Barren and were walking down the street, but we're really got amazing. We get to the White House and now it's a little bit little bit before dark beautiful.
And we went up to the president's quarters. They come, the presidential quarters and I'm standing in this beautiful hallway, you know? It's funny. Nobody ever talks about the White House is being beautiful inside. You know, you think it's going to be, everything's going to be all metal doors and stuff. It's not, it's so beautiful. I made my money largely on luxury. The hallway is like 25 feet wide. The ceiling Heights are every it's so beautiful but I was
Standing there. And I said to the guys, I want to see the Lincoln bedroom. I had never seen the Lincoln bedroom. I'd heard about the Lincoln bedroom, and I was standing with my wife. I said, you believe it. This is the Lincoln bedroom. I mean, it was like, it was it was amazing because it's luck. If you love the country but he or the Lincoln bedroom and the bed, you know, he's very tall. He was six foot six which then would be like like bear.
Right? Do you like Baron Trump? He's 69, but six-foot-six, he was very tall, then on top of that, he were, there it is. He wore that. Yeah, there it is. It's a long bed elongated bed and because very, you know, people were shorter than you. See some of the chairs are very, very low to the ground, actually, but he had the long bed and they had, you had the Gettysburg Address right on that, right under that. You can't see it here. But right there, the original version of the Gettysburg Address,
Yes, and this is the original and I'm looking and I just looked around. I said, Do you believe this because I was never a part of first. So even if you were a politician, but I was never a politician, it just, I sort of just started right, right? All of a sudden, I'm standing at the White House and it was very, very surreal. That room was so beautiful to me much more beautiful than it actually. Is, you know, to me when I looked at the bed and the bed, you can see it was a little bit longer had to be a little bit longer. He lost his son.
And, and they suffered the two of them suffered from Melancholia. They didn't call it depression, they called it Melancholia, and he suffered from it. He was a very depressed guy, and she was very depressed, woman, more. So than him. And on top of that, they lost their son, whose name was Ted Ted. And it was just seeing it in the little picture, the little tiny picture. I mean, you can't see the details are a little tiny.
We think the word was a little tiny picture of Ted who he lost and it was devastating and he was, you know, he was look he was in a war. He was he was and he was having a hard time because he couldn't beat. Robert E Lee. Robert E Lee one like 13 battles in a row and he was getting like a phobia like a fighter, you know a lot about the fight stuff but like I went to a UFC fight and it was a champion who was
14 and one about a year ago, you would know the names 14. And one, and the only guy who lost, who was this one guy, but the guy that he was fighting was like almost just an average fighter lost numerous times, but he beat this one guy. So I said, okay, I really don't know who you're talking about, I don't know. I will figure it out. Okay. But about a year ago, but the point is that he lost, he wasn't nearly the fighters who, but the one who was not nearly the fighter had beaten, he's the only guy that beat the champ.
I'm like five years before. And I said, I'll take the guy that won the other fight and that's what happened. He beat him a second
time. Sometimes Lincoln logical Advanced
crazy thing Lincoln had a I don't know why I've never read this. I heard it from people in the White House who really understand what was going on with with the whole life of the White House. But Lincoln had the yep's about in a way as the golfers would say he had a phobia about Robert.
Lisa, I can't beat Robert because Robert E Lee won, many battles in a row. He was just beating the hell out of, you know, they tried to get Robert E Lee to be on the north. But he said, you know, I have to be with my state, you know, the state was his sole thing and he went to the South and he was, I've had generals tell me we have some great generals, the real generals not the ones you see on television, the ones that beat Isis with me. We defeated Isis in record time who supposed to take years and we did it in a matter of weeks.
These are great. Generals these are tough guys. He's a not woke guys but their favorite General in terms of Genius was Robert E Lee term strategy strategy strategically he took a war that should have been over in a few days and it was you know years of Hell a vicious war. And so here I am standing there and again I had never really done this before. You know, I ran I ran a number of months before
I won, I probably, I guess if you figured Max it out, it would be a year, something like that. So I had never run for office and I did well, I mean, I wanted to debates with 18 people, including me and then slowly, but surely they started to disappear. We had debates, good debates.
Everyone's where all the stuff? What I want to get to is like, what was the experience once you got inside? It was just, what did you think it was going to be like, in terms of like, your ability to govern? Yeah. Like this is your
First experience. Governing anything you never been a governor, you never been a mayor private private stuff business. Yeah, but now all the sudden weather inside the White House,
the biggest thing was just that first moment of being in this hallowed usually hallowed place to me. It was a real is beyond to me, it was the experience, it was a surreal experience and then with time that wears off with time, it becomes, you know, your place where you stay and right. I was doing a lot of I was, I had
Things that I really focused on governing the country and survival. Because from the moment I won before, I got to office all of a sudden it. And I mean, they came down, I mean, nobody has ever been treated that way and, and you see that, I mean, you see, we're in the Washington Post, very early on they said, well now the impeachment stuff starts and it did. I mean, it literally started from the beginning, so I had survival and run the nation. I had a combination most
L don't have the survival, they get in, I think.
What did you expect do in terms of? Like, once you got inside, you had to point all these people. Like, how many appointments chapter make when you have actually, shorten
will actually 10,000 appointments. Now they're different. You know, you have big ones and then they appoint bright 100 people and 200 people. But the president really is, is involved with approximately 10,000 appointments. So you'll have pointed Secretary of State and he will, he or she will appoint a lot of people. So it's a lot.
But in terms of major ones, you probably have like 100 but they're big ones, treasury State military and how did you
know who to
appoint? Well, I didn't. I had no difference. You have to understand. So are we 17 times in Washington? And I never stayed over according to the Press, which I think is probably right over the years. I was only there 17 times I never stayed over. So now I'm sitting there, I'm saying this place is gorgeous but you know,
No, I don't know anybody. It's like you you know you go to certain areas and other areas they may be great Washington was great Washington's, not so great right now they're going to we got to fix it. We got to make it better very dangerous place, very badly, maintained place. We're going to make it great. We're going to make it better. We're going to bring it back but I wasn't a Washington guy was a New York guy. I was in New York Builder and I built buildings in New York and I knew that whole world but I didn't know that Washington world to well and all of a sudden you're supposed to be
Ding Tao people. So
what did you think it was going to be like versus like, did you have any ideas of what is going to be like and what was
different? Well, I was always involved in politics but usually from the standpoint of a donor or acid owner, you know, I was a big donor, I gave money to politicians. I enjoyed
both the Democrats, right?
Adam, both really pretty much both. I actually pictures of Ronald Reagan and me when I was very young
or a Democrat until like what year
I was a Democrat. I could get you the exact
Act. But the the early 90s, the early 90s, I switched over eventually actually, they had a reform party. I was thinking about doing that for a little while but then fortunately, I didn't because it's very hard, you know, it's a two-party system and any time you hear third party, I know you like RFK. Junior and so do I, he's a fantastic to but I thought that whole thing is independent was nonsense. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. Because even if you do great, you're not going to get Congress in other words, right? You need now to say, okay, now I'll get half of Congress.
Never going to vote for you. So even if you got there, which is very hard and but and I know how you feel about Bobby and I feel the same way and he's now with us, but it doesn't, it's real, it's pure and simple, it's a two party system, right? And somebody, I won't mention his name, but somebody spent 250 million dollars trying to get the nomination as a Reform Party candidate or whatever. And they got just know where you get eaten, you just getting this system, Eat You Alive, right? So,
So it was it was really somebody that Not only was new to Washington, Post new to politics. So in in the office of the presidency, over the years, all those presidents, you've had, 92% were politicians and 8% were. Generals General, Eisenhower General Washington, right? General, George Washington had generals so it's 8%. John no, Admirals. 8% Generals in.
2% politicians, you know, the politicians and they going. So they never had a business guy or they never had a guy that wasn't elected to an office. They were all like, Ronald Reagan was really, he was a movie actor and then he, but he became the governor of California for they two terms and then he ran. So you'd never had anything like this. But I, you know, in terms of me and some sometimes I'd use it as an excuse and I don't like having excuses, actually, but I use it as an excuse, I had to rely on
A on people that I respect it or like but that I didn't know that well because I didn't know them that well, some of those people I campaigned against because, you know, when you have 18 people we had mostly politicians running in the election, you know, running in the primaries and they got knocked out one by one it, but I got to like some of them, some of them, I didn't like at all. And I don't like them now and I rely on them and I'd rely on other people. So, all of a sudden people would come in. I'd like to recommend so-and-so to be Secretary of State.
And I have three four people recommend. One thing I can tell you is you everybody wants to position, of course, no doubt. But sometimes I'll hear a lot of people don't want to work with Trump because Trump is tough to work with etcetera. Let me take everybody. Wants to be any one of these positions they die for it. Of course. Now they don't want to be known. I mean, there's a particular guy in New York primarily. Very big, very big, very successful, very, very strong, very political, although he's not a politician.
Petition. He'd give anything to be Secretary of State, but if they ask them, no, I don't think I would do it, but in the meantime begging for it. Okay begging, they all believe you everybody. Look everybody wants it. But my but
my, by the way, no matter what you
do every, but it's very dangerous to pick somebody outside of a politician because the politicians been basically vetted for years, right? You pick a business guy and they've never been vetted at all. And there are, you know, the head of a big company or something, but they've never been vetted.
You know, nothing about his personal life, you know, nothing about where he's been when you put them in as a little bit dangerous because all of a sudden they get checked up and you hear things that you say, wow this is not going to work out too well. So it's very dangerous picking picking people that are outside of politics is somewhat dangerous.
So you're kind of stuck in a position. We have to pick establish people. Then the problem with established people is established people already indoctrinated into the system
and their staffs in many cases distance this survivors,
I find that, you know what you
mean by steps, when you say
step-by-step, if they don't, they don't have nothing, they have nothing or they're smart and Survivor one little thing. So, there was a congressman years before I ran and I was very close to him and I needed a license on something and he was very important in getting their license, but it was a little bit controversial, the license, the this particular thing that was being license but I was close to this guy and help them and everything else and I want to him, I said I'd like to have
Help. And he said, let me take a look at it. I said, oh, that's not too good, but I really hope you're going to help anyway, he tapped me alone for a long period of time. And ultimately didn't do it. And I said, you are a stiff. You could have done this thing so easy etcetera, but it was controversial. He was in Congress for many years, like 28 years and you know, there's a reason when somebody's there for 28 years, you got to be sort of smart, right? I know you have a Survivor and I realize he was a Survivor
and
Oh, they never do anything controversial. They never take any chances are speak their opinion, it's outside of the
yeah. And yet I don't disrespect him for. So I actually respect to the guy more in a certain way. So you know what he's been there? Like for 28 years and he made it through. A lot of people don't make it through.
It's a good way for non exceptional people to
survive it. Well, it is. Yeah, it certainly is.
So you're in there, you have 10,000 appointments, you have to make, like so you're getting advice from people and
At one point I did you have a moment in time where you realize, like these are bad choices, like some of these people I shouldn't have had in
there. Oh yeah, I think so. The one question that you'll ask me that I think you'll ask me that. See people seem to ask and I always come up with the same answer as if the one mistake because I had a lot of success, great economy, great everything, everything was great, we the military rebuilt. It biggest tax cuts in history, all the snow we did
A great presidency, three Supreme Court, Justices most people get none you know you pick them young this way there for 50 years. Right? So you know, even if a president is there for eight years often times, they never have a chance. I had three. It was sort of the luck of the draw but I will say that it always comes back to the same answer. The biggest mistake I made was I pick some people, I pick some great people you know but you don't think about that. I picked some people that
That I shouldn't have picked. I picked a few people that I shouldn't have picked and neocons. Yeah, Nia cards or bad people, or disloyal people or
people that were just people that are into that because people that advice.
Yeah, I mean look, I mean, you reading about them a little bit today, a guy like Kelly, who is a bully, a bully but a week a week person, you know, you know more about bullies and anybody probably around because you're dealing a certain sport where the bullies are exposed very quickly. Yeah. But you know,
He's bad Bolton was an idiot but he was great for me because I'd go in with a guy like a John Bolton, you know, John Boehner, friend of mine called called me up. I was picking bolt and he's a very smart, guys, name is Phil rough? And he's a very rich guy from Las Vegas. One of the, he's a great card player, he doesn't play cards, but he's a great player, you know, she's just a natural, get poker sense. Right? You know, little poker sense and feel rough and his is a very, very wise kind of a guy.
And very one of the richest people around and has had great success and understands people. So it was in that I was picking Baltimore, I picked pulled and he called up. He said don't pick him why he's a bad guy. I what? Now he wasn't in politics at all these in various businesses. He said he's a bad guy. He's just, it always works out bad with that guy. And I said, I wish you told me this two weeks I already hired him. You know, he's here.
And and he was right but but he was good in a certain way, he's a nut job and every time I had to deal with a country, when they saw this whack job standing behind me this at all, man, Trump's going to go to war with us. He was with Bush. When they went stupidly into the Middle East, they should have never done it. I used to say it as a civilian, so I always got more publicity than other people and I didn't it wasn't like I was trying in fact,
I don't know exactly. Why, maybe you can tell me where I could
definitely do. You said a lot of wild shit? Maybe
maybe
it's a lot of wild shit. And then CNN in there, all their brilliance by highlighting your wild shit. Made you much more popular. Yeah, and they boost you in the polls because people were tired of someone talking in this bullshit, pre-prepared politician, lingo. And even, if they didn't agree with you, they at least knew whoever that guy is that's him. That's really him.
When you see certain people talk certain people in the public eye, you don't know who they are. You have no idea who they are. It's very difficult to these see them in conversations. They have these pre-planned answers, they say everything, it's very rehearsed, you never get to the meat of it. What the one of the beautiful things about you is that you free ball, like, you get out and you do these huge events and you're just talking and you're making, we we've highlighted you on the show many times. Were you when you did this by an impression? Always walk around. Doesn't know what he's doing. Scary it stand up.
Funny stuff but it's like you and you're making fun of Ilan. What I'm doing a deal on impression. It's great. You have like comedic instincts. Like when you said to Hillary, you'd be in jail. Like that's great timing. Yeah, but it's like that kind of stuff was unheard of as a politician, like no one had done that, and I think it's funny. You
need at least the attitude of a comedian when you're doing this business. This is a very dangerous business. First of all, it's a very tough business one,
And it's the most dangerous yesterday
as well for a
job. Yes. I mean other than going far more and being a firefighter or being a cop. It's the most dangerous.
It's the most days being president is the most dangerous.
Especially you. I mean, we want you haven't even got to the election has been two assassination attempts and they've brush those out of the news, like, it was
nothing. I'd rather not talk about
it. Imagine if there was a assassination attempts on Biden, how hard people would be attacking the right, how they would be trying to get guns taken away from
People, they would try to ramp up gun laws. They would try to figure out some way to blame you. If there was a tax on but if Biden got shot in the ear, we would have never heard the end of
it but I think he's in good shape because it's only consequential presidents. If you take a look at what's happened, look I'm for having countries pay as billions and billions and trillions even dollars. I took in hundreds of billions of dollars from China. Nobody took in 10 cents, not one other president. I do things that make it. I mean that
That don't necessarily make me so popular. I just do what's right? And when you do that, you know, you're more. Look at look at around a rent we would have never had the attack on Israel at all. Iran was broke. I told China if you buy, you can't do business in the United States under any circumstance. Going to, we're going to go cold turkey with China. Some people think that would have been a good idea anyway. But if you buy any oil one barrel of oil from them, you're not doing business. I said that too many countries. Iran was broke. They had no money for Hezbollah, they had no
For Hamas, they had no one, but I make myself, you know, I mean, I understand what I'm doing it. You make yourself a Target and it's a very dangerous business, but if you just look at statistically, so I said, I said a thing. I don't know if it's right, but one tenth of one percent for a race car driver. Yeah, it's pretty, dangerous business, right? Yeah. 1/10 of 1%, for a bull rider. I tell you, to me, I talked to death, these guys, that ride, the Bulls as worse than UFC. It was yeah.
These guys say, you see these big monster bulls, and you see it in slow motion where the foot is like, you know, an inch away from the head of it. Hits him, the guys gone, but they died, you know, they
die. So one tenth of one percent died or something.
Yeah, 1/10 of 1% die, right? And they certainly get hurt badly. I really I mean they can't walk after a certain period of time, but but with the president if you look at the amount of selfishness and and attempts to attempts, no, it's a very dangerous position. I never thought of that. By the way, when I did,
You know you don't you don't tend to the I just assumed because people don't
join The Apprentice. They were going to love you as well as
think it would be so easy. You know it's
probably would have been if the media didn't attack you the way they did if they didn't complete you with Hitler. I mean even today like Kamala was talking about you and Hitler your they're going to take what you said about Robert E Lee. Oh Donald Trump we just south of
one. Yeah he loves riper they
love to take things out of context and distort things
but they don't even have to take him out. They make them up entirely.
Leo came back to but you know it's interesting when you mentioned the I was very popular and and all those people love me. I mean this some of these these women they're so they're so stupid and joy. She would every time she'd see me like I'd be in the theater or something. It's just you have to be on the show again. Come on, come on, let's go. We have she loved, you did love
me that episode where Waterway will be should watch that episode just to see what we're talking about. Like I said, we don't want to get a copyright.
Like so we're not going to put it up, but it's okay, if you watch the episode, it's bananas. It's like an alternative universe and it's
only butt-whooping years
ago? Whoopee loved loved. You gives you a hug and a kiss. And how about that
other one, the new one on there. The, the one from my Administration, she writes me, a letter of the greatest president, she leaves. You know, she worked as like, as an assistant press secretary, hardly know her but she leaves and she writes me. This gorgeous letter. What's her name? She was. I don't even know, you know.
Anyway, she was in the administration, she's on now currently sits in the far right hand side. Whatever the hell her name is and and she writes a letter, the most beautiful letter she's quoted in the paper. He's a consequential. He was the greatest president Baba. Then all of a sudden she goes to interview. She's not hitting the hell out of me because they won't hire. Unless I've had many people going CNN and they called said, I don't know what to do when they want to pay me a lot. But I have to be - Anu, I said, be - that's okay. There were guys are like CNN. They won't hire.
Our
them. Sean Duffy is a congressman and he retired. He got a good job with CNN but he was only positive about Trump so they kept him but they would never put him on. I mean, I respect what he did, he could have gotten you know - I tell people go - my friends make the money. Well, it's so crooked. The Press is still crooked, it's crooked, but it's
also their diminishing themselves. They hurry are there. Killing all the credibility and it's opening up the credibility to New Media. It's okay.
I have the credibility to Independent Media, all the worst I've ever seen
and I've seen the worst. I mean, I've been a part of it. I've been, I've seen the worst Kamala goes on 60 Minutes. Gave an answer that a child wouldn't give. It was so bad and 60 minutes took the answer out. They took the whole and they put another answer, it
added it to something
which didn't make sense either, but it was better. They took the well, it was an editing, it was fraud, who's this was not editing, you know, editing is where
I'll give an answer and they'll take a couple of words and change around, or they might even take a sentence or two off, which is very bad, but that's, it's sort of bad. You know? I'd give an answer which was a very good answer. I always talk about, you know, I like to give along the we've, you know, I
like to, yeah, you like to weave things in,
but when you do the weaves and you have to be very smart to do with, when you do the weave. Look at this, just in this one thing, we're talking about a little pieces on here, but it always ends home. No, no, it comes back home for the right paper for the wrong people. It doesn't come back home in the end up in the
Wilderness right? But but they can take my answer and you know what, they may take a little piece of it out or something and they used the term. Yes, we want to save time. Well, it's not. But I've never heard. I think it's the biggest scandal in broadcast history, what happened to CS CBS. So you have CBS 60 minutes, that's a news program, it's not an entertainment program, it's under their news, it's the head of their news thing. She gives an answer that was that shows that she's essentially incompetent
And they took the answer, I could you imagine them doing that, we can
show it if you want people to see it, can we know? We'll get in trouble, we'll get copyright strike. Okay, I'll end up to anyone and down slightly, but it's drastic. But what was on interesting was the other full version was available. Initially, it was like a
preview, somebody made a big mistake,
somebody put that preview out some kid with the preview.
Exactly. And then the boss is did this or that and then all of a sudden said we
got a problem. Exactly. And then they got caught by mistake.
Take. Well, you don't you think that's a bit to me? And don't forget, this is
election interference and fraud, and it's 60 minutes, it's their news division. So, they get big deal. They give those licenses out. Yo, for free. They should pay a Fortune. They're worth a fortune. They give them out for free because they using the public Airwaves with cable, you don't have that cables different but, you know, it's just a different deal. But with the Network's, they give those lice. They're worth.
Billions of dollars. They give them a free. But you have to be honest. And all that was bad. I think that David Muir and that woman, that was a sight. I never even heard of her, but they kept interrupting me. It was like I said, how many people am I debating here? I got this one, and I got you too, but he went after me 11 different times. You know, it's interesting. I always thought he was a nice guy but he's just like the rest of them, you
know. Well, that's his job, unfortunately. And I'm sure when they really want, you're right, well, the problem was, they fact
Checked you and they did, in fact, check her. And one of the most egregious examples of that was when she said that there is, there are no troops right now. Deployed in war zones, there's a very famous viral video that went on line of troops in a war zone saying, well, what the fuck are we then? Because there's thousands of them Dan Crenshaw, the congressman posted on his Instagram, all of the various examples of two measurements that are deployed thousands and thousands of troops that are
Deploy stupidly deploy. The point is if this is going to be an actual real debate and not a propaganda exercise, it's going to be a real debate. You have to fact-check everybody. So if somebody doesn't want, she thought there was snow, which is also a problem. So it's one of two things. It's either it was not true. Was a lie on purpose, which is terrible or it was the opposite. It was ignorance which is also terrible
ordeal. When I said crime is soaring, he said no no crime has gone down. I said, where did he hear that one?
Crime has gone down. I mean, I'm debating with this guy
but I've had that it was amended FBI statistics that came out after that, that showed the crime had gone up substantially. By the way, the statistics
were a fraud because when they put out the statistics, they didn't include some of the worst places. They didn't include some of the worst cities, some of the most deadly places, but when the real numbers came out, I turned out to be right, but I haven't
you turned out to be right? But then there's another problem. Unreported crime is way up because people have lost. Look, the morale that the police department has
In a lot of these cities where they've done is defund, the police bullshit,
right? These, the morale, these
four cops, it's fucking horrible. It's the dumbest idea that old times, but what they've done is they've they've made these cops feel terrible. The like good cops, I think cops are just like everybody else. Most of them are great. It's like everybody else but if you run into one Carpenter and he does a shitty job on your house, he say Carpenters fucking suck but they don't suck. Most of them are great. And then she said Benny with cops but the point is like they did all of these things.
In this very foolish way and these cops are suffering the consequences of it. And so subsequently, what happens is a lot of crime is unreported. A lot of crime like you call the cops, they're too busy the academy gets you or your house got broken into sorry you know you. It doesn't even make a report. There's a lot of people that did they just give up.
It's so sad, what's happened? And I'll tell you what, I go to police funerals and we went to one in Long Island. I visited the family on Long Island, very big deal.
It's so dangerous people don't realize the car dark Windows pull over. He's a gentleman, please pull over door. Opens guy comes out firing even if they were allowed to pull out the gun which they're not, they can't, you know, put on time. Yeah, they
still wouldn't have times every cops. Worst
nightmare it, they opened the door and he was killed and his partner was hurt. He was killed. And you don't have, I mean, you don't even have an eighth of a second to think and it
Is such a dangerous job that in particular, think of it. You go up to a car. You don't know who's sitting there with a gun, and if they have a gun, you really don't have a chance. You're not allowed to have your gun out, by the way. Yep, they're very strict rules. So, number one there. But even if you could have your gun out the door opens in a gun and bullets start firing at, you know, and especially where they have the dark Windows, where they have the darkened Windows. It is such a dangerous profession and it's very hard to get cops now because they are not given any
Back up and you're right you can you know, they have like an eighth of a second to make a decision, that's going to change their life. If they make the wrong decision, they're going to end up on the front page of every newspaper in the country and they're going to lose their house and their pension, and they are their job. And their wife is going to be gone and everything has to be done.
And there's another thing that people don't talk about, how many of them have PTSD, probably most of them. Yeah, these guys are seeing people shot all the time. You know, I've talked to a ton of cops about it and you know a lot of cops.
It's suicide. A lot of cops are deeply depressed.
A lot of we have to give them back their dignity. We have to we can't we just have to give a backs. You said so good. You never hear anybody say that you're never going to have it. Perfect. You're going to have a bad
apple and everything and everywhere
fashion but every time there's a bad apple that gets massive publicity and it it taints everybody but it's also
this very irresponsible thing where people say defund the police get rid of the police, you know, even Kamala Harris was a part of that that it's a very stupid way to
We should do is fund the police. You should have better training, you should have cops and feel more appreciated you do. You should have some something that helps mitigate this PTSD, that all of them suffer
through. She was a big part of the fund, the police, that was a big thing for her to fund. The police, always, to fund the police. What was, it's a political idea, but any anybody with that political thought, I don't think she'd be running for president and I think people are getting wise to it, you know, we're doing pretty well. Now, I don't know maybe in a week from now. Say, sorry about that.
That I was wrong but will eating everything and I think we're going to have a very good election but I tell people because people are starting to get to know her but she was defined the police. She was all these transgender operations you know if you wanted a sex change and you were in detention and you demanded a sex change, they would give you a sex change. Well, the
wildest one is this idea of giving free sex change to illegal
immigrants, that's right in detention, that
is the wildest that choice is that
The biggest problem you have. You just walked here from Guatemala. You need to come a girl,
but she was in favor of it. So think of it. She was now she changed. She changed 15 policies. In fact, I'm going to send her a maggot
cap. She said, call your idea about no tax for tips.
I came up with this idea, but honestly, nobody ever heard of and now, it took her two months. But you know what? All of
us, it was caught fire
and she just put it into a little speech. Yeah. Well, every kid I think we have, I think we still have that issue. I think that issue is a good one for us.
But now we have a lot of good issues. You know, we had the other day, I think of how simple some of these things are. We're trying to get cars built in the United States. Detroit has been really tough. It's been a disaster. They have a huge Factor, huge car, auto plant, being built by China in Mexico. Make our sell them in the United States. Put everybody out of business right here we go again. I said if that plant is there when I'm president, I will put 100 or 200 percent tariffs on every car they'll be unsaleable in the United States.
And they just announced a not going to build the plan because they think I'm going to win think of it. Then I'm going to build a plant, this was the biggest plant in the world. It would have more than all of Michigan makes. That's how big, you know, this is what we're getting to. And I said, if that plan goes up, I want them to understand. If I win. I'm going to tax those cars at the rate of a hundred or two hundred percent of Peace, so that you won't be able to sell them in the United States. They just announced a not going to build the plant. Yeah. Right the I did a big favor.
Over for our country by doing that. And I'm not even there yet to me the most beautiful word. I've said this for the last couple of weeks in the dictionary today and any is the word tariff, it's more beautiful than love sport beautiful than it. It's the most beautiful word. This country can become rich with the use the proper use of tariffs, it'll teach you
just float out the idea of getting rid of income taxes and
A single word tariffs. Well, okay. We serious
about the how. Yeah, sure, why? Not? Because we ready our country, was the richest in the eighth, relatively in the 1880s and 1890s, a president who was assassinated name McKinley, he was the Tariff King. He spoke beautifully of Terrace is language was really beautiful. We will not allow the enemy to come in and take our jobs and take our factories, and take our workers and take
Our families, unless they pay a big price and the big prices tariffs and he'd speak like that, but he was right? And then around in the early 1900's, they switched over stupidly to frankly an income tax. And you know why? Because countries were putting a lot of pressure in America. We don't want to pay tariffs, please don't, you know, they believe me, they control our politicians. If you look at the kind of numbers that these guys make then and now but we had a
Asian meeting in the eighth, I think was 1887 think of this problem. We were so rich. We had so much money. We didn't know what to do, so they set up a blue ribbon Commission on tariffs. And the sole purpose is what to do with all the money we had. We were so rich because we were taxing other people for coming in and taking our jobs and China does it? That's what China did. If you want to open a factory and
and sell cars, if you build a factory here or have a factory, they don't take our cars. They wouldn't take our guns, but if you build a plant in China, you can do that. Elon did that, by the way, Elon is great. That guy is such a great guy. I think you're a fan of Allah. Allah, he is from a different planet. He's the greatest guy that rocket coming at itok. I told the story once or twice.
So, you may have heard it because he speeches have been good. Did you see the one last night? Yeah. 29,000 people. That was a. Yeah. And the one, the night before was the same thing. We are, we are rocking and rolling, but, but Ilan, I'm talking to this very important guy. I said, wait a minute, I'm looking at something to televisions on muted, right? And I see this Rockets Old Brown from the heat, you know some huh? 10,000 degrees pouring down at thousands of miles an hour and I see this thing you know, it's like a 20-story building.
And it catches I say to this guy's an important guy. Wait a minute, let me just put you down, hold it. I gotta see this and I see this and it's going to crash. I said it's going to crash into the Gantry. They call it again tree as oh man that's got to be a disaster because the starting to get very close and then all of a sudden you see the flames and about a rear and it. Boom. And then you see the two arms, grab it crazy. And I forgot the guy I had them on the front. Now I said the hell with Nicole deal. Honest, it was that you
You. He said that was me, and I said, who else can do that? He said, nobody Russia can't do it, the United States, nobody can do it. You know, I set up space force, that was me, and that's the first time in 82 years that we opened another Branch since the Air Force and that's going to be one of our most important things but think of what he learned does and he did one other thing that I never heard of it. It's starlink I went down to North Carolina Georgia the different places right? I followed it right down and they
No communication, the polls were all knocked down everything. In one of the guys in North Carolina said, could you do me a favor? Do you know Elon Musk? Yes, he endorsed me. By the way, gave me the nicest endorsement to the tougher. He said the country is going to fail. You should do the same thing. Joe because you cannot be voting for Kamala Kamala. You not a Kamala person. I know you, I've watched you, I know him better than he is. You know, what, without speaking to you, I think I know you maybe almost as well as your wife. I have watched you for
So many years, you're not a camel. A person, you're a khabib person, but you're not accountable person. Nobody's going to know who could be Biz, but they know he was. He was not. He was not bad right that call. He was phenomenal, but that's to of kind of.
Your weave is getting wired. Well, you know, I would my way but isn't want to bring back to
Terra, but, but wait one side before we finish with tariffs. I just so they said they said, could you get him be, we need starlink and I call Elon, he got it for him. So fast saved so many lives and I said how was it? They said.
Better than the wires. You know they couldn't put him in that we're all they're all gone.
So getting used it recently and you toss the mountains. Did you find a good? It's phenomenal. It's the size of a like iPad. You just set it down on the ground. You get high speed internet, it's incredible. We are spending just to
show you. We're spending a trillion dollars to get cables all over the country, right up to Upstate areas where you have like two farms and they're spending millions of dollars to have a talk about the Lanka dealer finale and
dollars, that was way.
Wasted on this Internet access program that unites they didn't get
anybody. They haven't lived under but they haven't hooked up
one person, not one person, they spend forty two billion dollars. It could have gotten star links to everybody with that
kind of money for almost nothing. Yeah. For a monthly
charge and it would've been incredible and he wanted to that everywhere you want to go
and he wanted to do that and he wanted to do. How about this they built the charger stations right in the Midwest Midwest they built eight of them because nine billion
Just like a gas pump, right? They built 9 gas pumps except electricity comes out. They spent nine billion dollars. Three of them don't work the whole thing. There's so much waste. I could I could sit here and tell you about things that there's so much waste abuse and
fraud. Oh there's yeah I'm sure. I mean I think everybody's aware that let's get back to Terra. When you talking about one of the criticisms of your Administration, was with tax cuts and with tariffs, you increase the
The deficit. So was the strata, what was the strategy behind that and did you think it was going to increase the deficit by I got Angela Mount
okay, we were ready to rock. It was all guy, you know, I had a bad system, we had horrible tax policy, I made a great with a much lower tax rate. So I took it from almost 40% down to 21 percent. Now, I'm bringing from 21 down to 15 but only if you make your product
In the United States, which is great. People call me this, at what a great idea. And nobody ever heard of that before. I don't care if they make the product in Japan, why should I give up? So it's a 21 that at 21 in the first year we took in much more Revenue than we did it almost 40, think of that it inspired. Now, we had other things to, we were able to get people to bring back their money. You couldn't, you couldn't bring back your money if you had money in Europe, like Apple.
Apple had many billions of dollars outside they couldn't bring it. There was no way to bring it back in the bureaucracy, the documents all thing and also the tax was too high, you know, they wanted like half of it or something, nobody's going to do that. So they they leave their money in Japan and they spend their money there. That was part of what I did. The money came pouring back in apple, took in hundreds of billions of dollars, they brought it back from overseas. They brought it in. So how does the deficit increase? Because the so what happened is this? We were ready to rock and roll.
And then we had the covert thing, and we had a focus on that and if we didn't give some businesses ahead, they would have all, but you would have had a depression like in 1929, but we were ready to start. We were going to we would have very shortly been paying off debt. You know, we have 35 trillion dollars in debt and I'll never forget it. We were it was talking about from you know, the standpoint of being an office, I'm in the Oval Office and I have John McLaughlin and
Vo, the two very good pollsters probably, I don't know, I would say the two best, who knows? But very good. Postures, and we're starting to think about running for a second term, and we had the greatest economy in history. Never has. There been an economy land, you
attribute that to lowering tariffs, a lot of
Arabs to things and also I cut regulations more than anybody else. And if I asked many of the businessmen, you know, from the big companies and of the guys running the big companies that say. So if you had
Choice. You've had it now for a long time. What's more important to you the tax cuts you paid less tax or the regulation Cuts, every one of them said, the regulation Cuts meant more, who would think that, right? Because you don't equate it to dollars, but it actually is more dollars. We had it going and then we just had a focus on something else. But there was still you, these two, these two pollsters, we're sitting there and they said, sir if George Washington came
Back and Abraham Lincoln was. His VP is opposed to waltz. How bad is he, by the way? But if Abraham Lincoln was his VP, they couldn't beat you. You have and I'll never forget it the following day. They said, something's happening in China, sir, could we meet? I said, what's happening. People are dying and it was all around the Wuhan lab. By the way, there are pictures with little lines.
The body bags, all around the Wuhan lab. And I always said that from the beginning. Joe was, you know, they tried to say first. I said it was France, and they blamed everybody, but then they say was bachelor in the cave, 2,000 miles away. So we got hit with that and despite that we had the best economy, and when I gave it over the stock market was higher than it was pre covert, I mean, nobody could even believe it but we saved it and
We were helping businesses, they would dying, you know, they were so
it's your belief that if you had a second term given the policies in place, the way the economy was booming that you would have been able to pay off a lot of the debt and that was we just drive
covered. We would have been paying off debt and we would have had and don't forget by growth. The word growth is actually more important in a way because you could have the same debt but if you doubled your growth all of a sudden you're under levered but still we should pay off debt. You know, if you viewed the
Is 35 trillion dollars right now. It's a lot but if you look at the asset value, if you looked at a purely as an asset value, we have oil underground. We have water, we have mountains, we have, I mean, the assets are so enormous, but regardless of that, we've got 35 trillion in debt, we should pay it off, and we would have started paying off debt and probably even giving further given further tax. Reductions, I want to get it down to
15%, we're going to do more business, but when you get hit with a covert, everything stops and you have to keep these business alive. The businesses would dying. I mean, they were just dying this whole place. This country was going to die.
Are there influences outside of environmental that keep people from wanting to drill for oil and Frack? And do those sort of things outside of the environmental concerns which are
legitimate, of course. But what are
there other influences that may be over accentuate or
Over exaggerate these environmental effects are people being influenced in a way where they're trying to keep us from producing American Oil? Yeah, yeah.
So the environmental is the biggest tool for stopping growth. The biggest tool, the other is regulation and if you speak to Elon, he said the regulation. Now to send a rocket up to anywhere. Even if you do, everything it's almost it's becoming impossible but they use environmental.
In order to get people not to do anything. And sometimes I say, you know, I look at some of the, I know the environmental so better because I had to build buildings in New York. I had to build, I had to do environmental impact studies and I would see some of these guys that are higher for a lot of money. Environmentalists that would get you through the process and then be up in Albany. That's the capital of New York and they were up there trying to make it tougher for guys like me that were Builders because they get paid more
In other words, I had one guy highly recommended all, you know, I was good at getting permits. I was one of the kings of guy was always very good, but the environmental stuff was always horrible. They could slow a project down, 10 years, 15 years. I had a project in Louisiana built Big LNG plant. It was for 14 years. It was going to cost 18 million, 18 billion dollars. One of the biggest I'd like the Empire State Building laying down on side x.
More massive than the coast on the Gulf Coast and they said, sir, they're going to give it up. I said that, they shouldn't give it up. What's the problem? They can't get their environmental. They had environmental permits. That would fill this whole room up to the ceiling and they said there was one mistake on one little line. They want him to do it all over again. It's not going to happen and I got them their permit instantly and they built a plant its
massive. So when you're saying that so weapons there's people
Making money by making it difficult to make about lawyers. Now, I'm
just well, I'm talking about environmental processes
and lawyers environmental Consultants profit off of dragging out the
process. And how the process works. How do they provide? I'd probably do the same thing. If I were them to be honest with
you, as opposed, to be honest with how do they do that? How do they make it?
They go, let's say, New York, they go to Albany, okay? And they convince people that if you have a certain type of plant on the ground, that's this big. And in theory valueless, that it's a rare.
Plant and you cannot ever even touch it. You can't go near it. You can't put a building on it. You can't do anything or there's a little puddle and they call it a lake and you have to go by the standards of a lake. I said no no that's a puddle. Oh you have no idea. Guys are filling a little puddles. You have no idea what they do and so but they use it as a way to stop. You do use
it as a way to stop you. And also, as to way to generate money, I'm could to whether said how they're generating money that way though.
They get Feast, they get faced massive fees and met these guys, people
rely on them as experts because they're the people that they go to when they have to run these studies in the first. But
some of them are just big guys, and they're trying to make it more and more difficult. They have a lot of power. Yeah, I think they maybe had more. They didn't have as much with me because I would get through them, and I understood it. Look, I've had, I've done so many invite. They caught environmental impact study. I did so much to build a building to build a building in New York is very tough.
If you got to be various you got to deal with think of it, financing unions, all the municipal stuff, environmental of all of it. To me the toughest thing was the environmental because they could stop you cold with the environmental impact, studies stuff and and you deal, you hire a so-called expert, they say, sir, he's the one guy. He can get you through the morass. It's a morass. It's horrible. They use it as a weapon. They use it all over the country, but there are
legitimate concerns
Our environmental impact correctly, click about the BP oil spill. There's a lot of things that do happen that are environmentally devastating and you want to mitigate
that as much as well you do look. I had during our four years, we had the cleanest air in the cleanest water. I view it differently, I say air and water remember this it costs much more to do things environmentally clean. China doesn't do anything right when Kari goes to see President XI of China.
Which he probably doesn't even get to see him, but they look at him. Oh, yes! Yes, we will do. Oh yes, yes, we're going to do that. No more cold. No more coal just and then they approve 58, coal, plants for the next you know, every they build a coal, plant a week, okay? Build a lot of coal plants. We would let me just show you. So here we are cleaning and scrubbing, everything and everything's got an A years, got to be pure. But in three point eight days,
That stuff floating over China's right over the top of us, right? Same thing with the oceans. They dump their garbage into the Pacific Ocean. If you take a little Cork and put it there in about a week and a half, it will be in front of Los Angeles. We're picking up their garbage so nobody ever talks about that. But in a way, the bigger one is even the air. It's the currents. It's an amazing thing. It's been flowing that way for a million years alone.
For
we showed before with the whole world. Ya know if we get the Sahara dust clouds over here. Absolutely we could dust clouds in Austin from the Sahara
desert but we get to China, you know, they call it the China curse. We get to China curse that they're better. And there are is dirty. You know, when I went there I had a great relationship with President XI. We got along very well and they treated me better than anybody's ever. Been treated, same thing with Saudi Arabia, Qatar number of them. But they
They laid it out and I said, this air is good, you know, they closed every Factory one week before I got there from within 200 miles.
Let's like what Gavin Newsom did wengie Jinping came to San Francisco
and then it became a pigsty? Well, the
dumbest thing is, he said when your friends come by, when you have visitors, you clean up your house, like how about you just keep your fucking house clean can you imagine that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard anybody say,
As a governor as to excuse to, why you finally cleaned up your homeless
problem and the day he left, right back, it went right back well, but in a way that was a bad thing that he did, because he showed a lot of disgrace that was what a disgrace.
Well, this is the thing that like shows you how foolish a lot of these people that are running these cities. Think a lot of people that are running these states, think it's foolish. Like you, you're insulting the intelligence of the people that live in that City that are impacted by
These people just camping and needles and human feces. There's a an app that you can buy. There's an app that you can get rather, that will show you where the human feces has been documented in San Francisco. It's a poo app and it's everywhere. It's just bum crap everywhere.
But let me give you one that you may not know, okay? Which I think, you know, everything actually, as a student, as a student of yours but but water, you know, and Los Angeles, you
Get proper amounts of water, right? And it's unbelievably expensive and you might have a house in Beverly Hills and they're actually thinking about rationing water. Can you believe it? I could blend. I was in, I was in the farm Court country with some of the congressmen were driving up Highway. And I say, how come all this land is? So Barren, its farmland. And it looked terrible was just Brown and bed. I said, but there's always that little corner. That's so green and beautiful.
Ville. They said we have no water. I said, do you have a drought? No, we don't have a drought. I said, why don't you have no water? Because the water isn't allowed to flow down. It's got a natural flow from Canada. All the way up, north of money, more water than they could ever use. And in order to protect a tiny little fish, the water up, north gets routed into the Pacific Ocean, millions and millions of gallons of water gets poured. You got to see this we're driving up and I had never seen.
Before. It's the most it's like Iowa. It's the most fertile and I was blessed with great land. Idaho for a potato, right? But these there, just, by the way, you know, some land is good for a potato. Some land is good for corners of craziest thing. I love the farmers that great. They're the greatest and by the way, they're getting killed right now. They are they getting killed because of this stupid Administration. But so, I see this and I said, you got to be kidding. I said, you mean you have water and I looked at it. It's like a valve in your sink.
Except it's massive. The things five times taller than your ceiling.
Did you know the center of California was a giant Lake. They have so much. We never see what it looks like before they rerouted. So that the center of California like was it 200 years ago? How long ago did you that Jamie the center of California? Had a fucking enormous Lake in the middle
column for they dumped it into the Pacific who
knows what they did but whatever foolishness that they did well then to the situation that they're in
now think of those dry far.
Forests that burned down all, you know, the head of Austria said, you know, to
layer lake or Tachi Lake. It's a freshwater lake in the southern San Joaquin, Valley United States historically. Tulare Lake was one of the largest freshwater lakes west of the Mississippi show, a photo of what it looked like back then.
It's a great City, so that's what it looked like. Look at that image. Now, the one go to the woman, the third, from the right? Yeah, that was an enormously powerful than middle of California, imagined. That I'd be much more valuable probably crazy, is that? But how crazy is that? What do they look like in human
beings screwed, though? They let it go into the Pacific and then they,
I don't know what they did. What did they do that? Why did how did it go missing?
Yeah, they drained it 19.
1983. Oh my God.
Dry handful of times. Well, you know, Lakes to go dry with that's a big one, but take a big one ago. You could have
all of the water, you need all of that. Land would have more water. The whole thing could be like that little patch. It literally, literally I'd say, I was with Devin known as a congressman and other congressmen were going up. I was visiting that because they asked me to go up and visit their territory and I did, but I kept saying, look at this land is beautiful, but it's so dry and I thought they were going through like a desert, like a drought. They
Do we have water? But it gets me. So I looked into it. What is the fan? I got it done, I got it done. I could have water for all of that. Land water for your Forest you know you're far-sighted dry as a bone. Yeah. Okay dangers that water could be routed, you know you could have everything not only dangerous billions of dollars a year. They spend on far as far as and you know there's a case with the environment. They're not allowed to rake their forests because it allowed to touch it. When a tree falls down after 8:00,
18 months, it becomes very dry just like, you know, like real firewood. It's bad. You know, a tree that's up. These are all things I learned that the hard way the easy way, but when a tree is up, it sucks water, it's wet. I went to that the harder they had a couple of horrible forest fires in California. And I went, I said, you know, you got a lot of trees standing. Yes, they were healthy trees, sir. I said with this intense heat that you could see there were chart a little bit on the bottom but they were going to be all right? Because they're soaking wet because they suck up the water right. But when
Fall right there. Like, you know, it's like lighting a match. Yeah. And you got to be able to clean. They called maintain you for. So, yeah, with the head of Austria, he said, you know, it's a shame. I see all those forest fires in California and all they have to do is clean their Forest meaning, rake it up, get rid of the leaves, get rid of, you know, leaves at a sitting there for five years and they certainly get rid of The
Deadfall and get rid of the trees that have fallen in that,
you know, are like so many things. This country
By the way, could you write had it all done
for us though? I don't think you could break the whole Forest. You could I think you get rid of The Deadfall but raking,
all you leisurely, get rid of the Dead, okay? It inserts the really you know, environmentally they don't want to do that. They don't, they said, you know, it's got to be nature and all this stuff but in the meantime, this is exactly but you could have. So it was the Department of Commerce that needed the approvals, but Gavin Newsom had assigned him. I got it all done. Nobody could believe it. It was all done. I said I got it.
You got so much water. All you have to do is sign and that guy didn't want to
sign. Did he not want to sign because that would be a political
victory for you think? No, he didn't want. No, I don't think so. He, you know, he used to say he's a great president that we got along. We did we actually got along at that point but I think somebody said you just can't continue to call him a great president. You know, they do say that but we had it all done, he didn't sign and then we got on to other things.
And I every time I go to California, you have so much water, they don't know it. I'm telling you, people living in Beverly Hills, they turn off the water. Same thing with the electric, they want to go to all electric cars but they have brownouts every weekend. You
know? Well right after they made the announcement as of 2035, you're not gonna be able to buy an internal combustion engine in California. Like within a month, they had some announcement asking people to not charge their Tesla's agreed couldn't handle it. Well, how
are you? I will turn
The Mandate of media, this amendment that will be done. I would say in my first day, maybe two days because you know,
let me ask you about you clear. One of the things that when I've talked to people that have a real understanding of nuclear power, they what their position is, it's probably the cleanest safest form of electricity that we could generate. And that the fears of nuclear power are really about a few disasters. The Fukushima Three Mile Island these
These These are old systems and that they they're much more capable now and they're capable of making even better systems. But it's a difficult political issue because you think nuclear power, you think Chernobyl? That's what everybody does. They have this connection there had the potential for example where you're not
supposed to enter the land for 3000 years. Something that's right.
I think it's worse than that. I think that area is like going to be radioactive for probably longer than you can imagine. But the point is they're better at it now, right?
And that they could do it now and you can generate power in a way that you don't have to worry about. These is one of the most ridiculous things is electric cars. Being powered by coal-fired plants. It's a ridiculous thing. So it's happening. Yeah, that is what's happening and people want to think they're being green, you know? But
it's well of that you look at the way the battery is made, but here's the other thing we don't have. Well, we do actually, it's being held. You know, we have certain areas where we have great raw, Earth material, and we're not allowed to use it because of the environment.
And we have areas in California that have incredible raw Earth and they're not allowing, and I'm going to open it up. I'm going to let him use it
but how do you do that China? How do you do that? And protect the environment?
Because the environment is going to be protected, you can do it. You can make it like out of it. Okay, we'll put back a like, I mean something nice about likes you can do things magnificently you just have
to do it carefully mr. Principal
absolutely have to do it carefully but the problem, you know, China has all of those areas most of those areas.
And yet when they say go electric with the cars China is going to be the one that gives us the cars. All of those guys in Detroit are going to be out of business. You're going to make your electric cars over there. We have a thing called gasoline and we have more oil and gas under our feet than any other Nation. You know, I had in Alaska, there's a find it's called Anwar. I got it approved Reagan, couldn't get it. Nobody could get it. I got it all done. It was amazing. They were getting ready to start drilling the
Violent. They think of Saudi Arabia, one of the biggest vines in the world was all set to go and Biden comes in his one of his first orders were, we're not going to use it. It would have been so good for the we could have supplied all of Asia with oil and gas. What
was that? Was the neck and you talk about money, right?
The negative was politically, they didn't think it was good for them. That's all,
that's all it was. So you don't think that it's environmentally
dangerous taking it from way down deep in the earth environmentally would have been
fine so it can be done responsibly
Literally over, the wasn't the taxi environment? Well I think windmills, okay, so they talk about when was I think windmills are really disruptive. When you talk about the environment, they killed the birds. You want to see a bird Cemetery go under a windmill someday that hasn't been cleaned out with all the bird carcasses you like
massive amounts of whether also, massive ice or I went to the ranch in South Texas. We had a drive past this enormous windmill farm. It's gross, it's dystopian.
You're looking in the left and the right. All he sees these big spinning machines that aren't even that effective at generating
electricity. Most expensive form of electricity is a windmill and then they start to rust and rot and you have to, then they get abandoned by the people that built them. Because you have to get
rid of all that material to when you replace those blades. Now, you have a problem because you have to dispose, right? You have to dispose these enormous windmills.
And how do they say? You can't bury them. So I even questioned that but I'm not going to get into it.
They say you can't bury the bus. So you have the blades and you can't bury the bless. You could bear the blame. It's not going to matter here. Brother, you'll find errors, you could vary but they come up, this is what I mean they come up with this but the environmentalist dream is windmills. Everyone, you know what happens to them. After five years, they start to rot after 10 years, you have to replace them. Did you have a look at certain parts of California where they have heavy wind Mills? And they've been abandoned and the role different manufacturers in all different companies and the you haven't seen it is the ugliest thing.
It looks like a graveyard almost a graveyard of windmills, it's pollution so bad. It's put it
is in the oceans. It's no different than leaving garbage on the ground. How
about in New Jersey off the coast of New Jersey, they want to build the people are going crazy, not to build them, but we have them. The whales are washing up on shore, right? So, in 50 years that had one whale come ashore. Now they had like, 18 come in the last year.
What is the what is happening? With the whales? I've read about
this. Well, they say that the wind
I've been crazy, you know, it's a vibration, because you have those, you know, those things that 50-story building some
of right and they're super sensitive to vibration,
they have something, you know, the wind is rushing, the things are blowing, it's a vibration and it makes noise, you know what it is. I want to be a whale psychiatrist. It arrives the whales frickin crazy. Yes. Something happens with them but for whatever reason, they getting washed up on shore and you know, and yet the
environment usually ignored by the environmental violence, they don't.
Talk about it, right? I
think there's nothing uglier, I see it in Scotland, I see it all over the world. You have this beautiful Valley, it's been there for, you know, in Civilization thousands of years, but millions of years and all of a sudden you have these ugly windmills up, would your plan
B replace that with nuclear? What
Would You Do? Well nucleus. But I mean, I think there's a little danger of nuclear but, you know, we had some really bad nuclear. They did one in Alabama, they did one in. I think South Carolina, they do them.
They build these massive things then the environmentalists get in. It's a I don't want to go into a long story because it's too long for this show. This show is too valuable to talk about concrete but they have hardened concrete. It's number 12 concrete. It's a hard as it's harder than steel. It's incredible. They put up a wall in inspector. Comes along those. Nope, nope, your quarter of an inch to the wall might be 8 feet wide your quarter of an inch too short. I'm sorry, you got to rip down the wall. You got to because got to be poured contiguously, right? Your
1/4 of an inch. I'm sorry I ripped out and you can't rip it down this stuff. You can't put a hammer through it. You can't. It's it's incredible. Concrete technology is unbelievable. What you know what's happened?
You think of costly but that's an example of over-regulation. Yeah. Pointless we have an
inspector that comes along and he says take down at 25 bazillion dollar will these things ended up costing 25 billion dollars and that one of them never got opened, but here's the story. So,
France. Does it Frances largely? No clear and they build small little compact plants and if they need more, they build the same thing and they hook it up and they hook it up because they get too big and too complex and too expensive. And it is very clean, they say it's absolute, you know, my uncle, I had a great uncle who was a great genius just like other members of my family, but he was a professor at MIT
For I think 41 years, he was a longest of when I was in the White House, the head of MIT, Princeton and Harvard came down to meet me and the MIT person said I have a book on your uncle, dr. John Trump. He was a longest-serving professor who's a great genius sir do you know how and he had he knew everything about nuclear from math to chemistry to nuclear he knew it and he said someday it's going to be the way to go, but the problem is so dangerous in terms of War,
He said.
Donald some day, this was a long time. Uncle John dr. John Trump, he said, someday you'll have a little Satchel at your side and you go into a building and you'll be able to blow up New York City. I said Uncle John, that'll never happen. He's right, you know, he's right, well, that was a power.
So, Chris giving nuclear power or to other countries, right? Like that was the problem. That happen with India and Pakistan, they got nuclear power and then they were able to weaponize it.
The biggest problem in the world today is
That global warming its nuclear warming and we have idiots that are negotiating for us. We have a guy that doesn't make it past 4:00 and it's not because of age, you know, they are two. I know so many guys in their late 80s and they're better than you. I said to one guy the other day, I think you're smarter than you were 25 years ago. I've known him a long time. He's 89 years old, he's sharp, as, I mean, he's great Biden. Gives people a bad name because that's not an old. That's not an age. I think they say it because I'm
Three or four years younger, you know, I think that's why they said they say his age. It's not a sage he's
had a problem, two major, brain surgeries. He did, he did,
those are not good operations
and you see what you did today. He when trotted towards the camera and made some apology to neva made of Americans and that he said that's why he's headed out west like he's off the reservation so to speak for lack of a better
term. You know, it's interesting because during the debate,
I was looking over. I'm saying this is strangest. Just sort of like, strange things were happening. Yeah. But he couldn't
keep it together. But do you think they knew he couldn't keep it together? I think that they wanted. That. Is that why? I like historically that debate was earlier than they've been in the past, right? I think they wanted to get well, there's a lot of theories, a lot of people said, do the debate now and we'll get him out right. I think that maybe could be well, that is what happened because it's La. I think they also said do the debate now and get it over.
Over with right? I don't think anybody thought he was going to get out, really. I don't think any sense the debate, the debate got him out, but but I think it's very unfair, look, you have a bad debate, his numbers went down, but I think she's not doing very well right now. And I think she looks well, I get to that too, because it's hard
to know. Like the whole pole thing is very bizarre for most people because most people don't answer polls. So they read the polls. There, were you ever called I don't? Reply was didn't hang up. I was
never called if I did, I wouldn't answer.
Busy, you know how poles are done. I'm going to get my sleeves in trouble, but so I really don't believe too much in him.
So, well, 2016 taught, a lot of people about the in effect
of, well, they were very simple because I thought I was doing. Well, I'd go to a place and I'd have 30, 40 thousand, people, Hillary, go, they have 500 people, and they tell me, I'm going to lose. I said, why am I going to lose? I had 40,000 people. She had 200 people but, you know, I have a theory, these pulses, they charge a lot of money to, you know, they charge a half a million bucks to do some stupid poll and they
If you like 251 people, I don't think they interview in many cases. I don't want to get myself in too much, it's bullshit. I think they sit there, they make a deal, they got a half a million bucks. And I said Trump's leading 51 to 49 they announce it. And everybody says, oh, do you understand? I yeah I don't think they I think in a lot. Look I'm a very common-sense person. I think that they probably don't always Paul some of them probably never appalled.
What's the difference between 49 to 51 and forty seven and a
half? What's also a tiny percentage of the population? I don't think it's representative of the overall population. I just don't,
I don't know if one person in my whole life that ever got called by a
pollster. Exactly, that's my point. So here's here's my question
but I shouldn't say that because I'm doing very well you know really well in the polls. I think that's so this week. I happen to believe in a verse I only believe if they're good. No I like them this
Month. But no, I honestly believe that this is probably a lot of fraud. I had a poll Washington Post ABC in the Hillary thing. When Wisconsin they had me down 17 points the day before the election, I knew it was wrong because I had a rally. I had 29,000 people that are racetrack. It was like zero. Do his Wisconsin and they had me down 17 points. In other words, you had no chance and I won. And I called up my posters good guy. Good, good guy. And I believe he's legit.
Hermit and you know, some of them are some of them are I said, tell me why did they have me down so much? I mean, nobody's going to believe them. The next time they said they don't care when you're down 17 points. People are going to stay home. They're not going to vote because they're going to say I love Trump, but I'm not going to waste my time. It's cold out. I said, but what are they make it? Four or five, he said at four or five. They going to go and vote at 17 to not going to go to work. So think of it, I was seven. This is a Washington post/abc poll. I was down 17
It's in Wisconsin and I won, it's crooked
stuff. There's a lot of crooked stuff and I wanted to talk about that too, because one of the things our people talk about with you is the denial of the results and I think JD Vance did a brilliant job. The other day when he was being interviewed and they asked him, did Trump lose the 2020 election and he turned it around and said, was their legitimate election interference in suppressing the 100 lap top story on social
Tia and was that a concerted
effort? Well, they say I'm a 10 point difference and I lost by one one tenth of a point. It is they say it was twenty two thousand votes. But look, it was much more than that. And I appreciate Jade events and that and by the way, I think he was a great pick. Do you like JD is? I like him a lot? Yeah, you're allowed to say that it's not. What do I like about? I
think he's I think he's brilliant guy and I think his ability to talk like a normal human being he did, you did my friend Theo Von spot
And he just did it. How did he do it? Did great and he's just talks to why you called me
to be. Is that why you called me to do?
No, no. We're going to kick. I was he was a nice, nice shot. You. I was like, he's got to come in here. It's all about timing. It's all about the timing time. You think our timing is perfect. You have you have a scar and your ear? You got anything on there? I do when we say
we got. So right over here, the tiny. These are the exact right
there. Let's sit healed up pretty fucking
good man. That's pretty good. Yeah, it's little
It's not like some of the wrestlers some of the UFC fighters. No you didn't know, it got me was sort of like a Top
Shot. The
point of the bullet was order the yes. But you see the the things take it off a little bit but it makes me a tougher guy, you know, the fighters, you know, the fighters love their, you know Bo nickel is a great deal about. How is he going to do? I think
he's great, he's a fantastic
was almost like undefeated income still, yeah.
He's a fantastic wrestler and one of the one of the best mixed
Energy fighting again. I was fighting in Madison Square Garden in November.
Oh, that's going to be a niche after the election. Yep. So I'll leave the go as president or I'll be depressed and I won't bother. I really, yeah, I think they're having a fight right now. One of
the things that was fascinating also was the denial of the election results is, is a pretty common thing, Hillary Clinton, famously denied the in, she called you an illegitimate president and she said that Russia put you in place even though she conceded, yes, you know,
she conceded the night of the election because she
Was
beaten? Yes. And it was a thing that was pretty common for people, especially Democrats to deny the elections. There's been many of them the Bush Administration, the you know, the dangling, Chad's, all that
stuff will look at these guys in Congress. All these sleeves bags in Congress that a Democrats are still denying 2016 but now they don't so much because you know they try and pin it on me, you don't hear him say here's what they denied it
right up until the end. My point is this idea of
Action fraud is a forbidden topic and you get labeled an election did not, it's like being labeled and anti-vaxxer. If you question some of the health consequences of people who have for the covid-19 shots, oh my God, your aunt, is your an anti-vaxxer, if you say and what I say publicly, and I've said this a lot, it's not zero percent. So if you ask me, what is the amount of election fraud in this country? Is it 0%? No one thinks it's 0%. I've never met one person. Not a super
A liberal Progressive, far-left person or a right-wing conservative. Not one person thinks it's 0%. They think when you have human beings and also you have a lot of weirdness that was going on during the 2020 elections, particularly with mail-in ballots and you had
legislators that had to approve and they didn't approve and they went out and did it anyway. And you had ballot, you had old-fashioned ballot screwing. I mean, you had, you have people going up and dropping in
Only vote you at unsigned ballots etcetera,
Etc. Certain people that Bradley and there's the rhetoric is also that your Hitler and that they've ordered us to stop Hitler. You have to do whatever it was. Okay? Yeah, yeah and this is I mean, you're hearing this now. Combo are compared you to said Your Love of Hitler yesterday. It's the you know
a common is a very low IQ person. She's a very low like it, you know, I'm for taking tests to, I think anybody that runs for president should take, they should give him test and it's not an age thing. It's not based
If you look back on History 70s and 80s your greatest, some of your greatest leaders in the world world history, long time world history, they were in their 70s and their 80s, but I think you should take cognitive test. I think everybody, they say it's unconstitutional but I think is ridiculous. I think calmly should have a test because there's something missing, there's something wrong with her.
Well, I think it's pressure, I think the pressure and the scrutiny. You've been a celebrity for a long time and you understand what this is like, but for someone who's in her late 40s, who
Um's the vice president who runs for president becomes the vice president and then all the sudden, the weight of the world is on your shoulders and there's all these people paint, a lot of people clam
up but you either have it or you don't correct. Look, this is an interview. You've we've covered a lot of territory, right? And you know, it's fine, I don't care. I want to, I think it's much more interesting. She to do an interview with Anderson Cooper, a softball crazy, softball interview.
She took two days off and she studied and studied all day long. And then she comes out with a result. That was a real embarrassment. That was a really bad interview. She couldn't answer a question and every question is not answering, like what would you do your first day in office? Okay, I'll build a wall. I won't build a wall on. There's a hundred things you can say, just say anything, right? There's something off with her. Well, are we dealing Joe? We're dealing with the smartest people. They hate when I say you know, when the Press when I call presidency they said
He called president XI brilliant. Well, he's a brilliant guy. He's controls 1.4 billion people with an iron fist time. He's a brilliant guy with you like it or not and they go crazy.
Russia doesn't mean he's not evil or it doesn't mean he's not. Yeah, of course. Not dangerous. But but actually
we have evil people in our country. Yes. If you have a smart president, he can deal with Russia. He can deal with all of it. I had a Russia would have never gone into Ukraine. If I were
president, how would you have stopped it?
Automatic two things. I told them, I said,
Vladimir, you're not going in. I used to talk to him all the time. You're not going in. I can't tell you what I told him because I think it would be inappropriate. But someday, he'll tell you, but he would have never gone in. But you know, why else he wouldn't have gone in oil prices at $40? A barrel, wouldn't have allowed him, wouldn't have given him the money to prosecute. That war wouldn't have given him the money. I said it with President, I was with President XI. I said it was almost the same conversation with Vladimir.
Was Moscow with President XI. It was Beijing. It was almost the exact same conversation. I said, don't do it. He would have never done it the day, I left, they flew 28 bombers over the middle of Taiwan, 28 bombers and it's the apple of his eye and the same thing with Russia. It's the Apple Ukraine is the apple of his eye used to talk to him. I had a very good relationship with him. He wouldn't have done it. He would have never done it, but he also wouldn't have done it because of the
You know, one of the reasons that what happened is number one, he doesn't respect mine at all not even a little bit and who the hell would but he doesn't respect him. But when he saw what happened in Afghanistan, how horribly that was handled number one, you take the soldiers out last not first, okay? That was that big mistake. And we had that thing charted out and they weren't obeying us, they weren't Abdul is the head of the Taliban boom. Boom, had to do all these things. Some he didn't do, I said, nope, you're not.
What you got to do them all this guy took, he immediately took all he left the equipment behind 13 soldiers did pretty. Took everybody out. He took his soldiers out before a child would know. That's where Millie were so stupid. He was such a stupid guy, Millie. Okay, those General should have all been fired. The Afghan the people that were involved with Afghanistan. Should have all been fired. Then did be writing books about him, how stupid he wasn't bad. He was but
You take your soldiers out last. I had a big rally and I saw a child in the front row about a year and a half ago, and I called the child up. I said, you mind if I borrow your child. Oh yes, please. And they came up kids, five years, I gave him a quick details, you know, I said we want to get out of this place and we have this that we have this and we have the equipment again, a little thing. I said, do you take your soldiers out first or last after everything's done? You take them out. Last sir.
A child would know that we took our soldiers out first. What was it will left? And we left a bag room. Well,
well not only that, we love them. Billions of dollars worth of equipment and military vehicles that are used for parades.
Now, the best equipment yet to embarrass us the best equipment in the world, during our
band parade, where their got tanks rolling down the streets. And Blackhawks line is the craziest thing I've ever seen. We
left the we loved our Best Equipment in the World Behind. What would
you have done differently?
Well,
Number one, we would have taken it out. Just so you just go back a little bit further. I had a couple of conversations with Abdul and from the time, I had those conversations because they were shooting ourselves as, you know, with the sniper stuff, they were showed, it was shooting a lot of they were shooting a lot with Obama much less with me, but there was shooting him and I said, get this guy on the phone. The Press went nuts when they heard this. I had a great conversation with it was a tough conversation, 18 months later, there wasn't one soldier.
It was ever shot at and even Biden. Admitted it in a moment of stupidity, because he shouldn't have been at his people went nuts. He said yeah. Well, I will admit no Soldier. We didn't have a soldier killed in 18 months, in Afghanistan. Not one soldier was killed because he understood what was going to happen if that happened. I didn't have one. So then when I left after having gotten more votes than any sitting president in the history of the country and much more votes that I got in,
And when I left, they started shooting our soldiers. But more importantly, what they did is they did that whole thing with, you know, leaving. He shouldn't have left number one, should have left from Bagram. Because ba G is massive base. It's got tremendous acreage around a tremendous, it's a very big. It was built many years ago and part of the reason you wouldn't have taken that is because it goes to China one hour from where China makes its nuclear missiles, you should have never
Left Bagram number one, they should have left from Bagram. They should have left last, they should have got, you know, we have Americans at a still there. They should have taken all their equipment out, everything should every plane. Every screw should have been taken out every 10th, and I said that, that's when I realized that really was a dummy. I said, we're leaving, but I want to get everything out, search Jupiter or leave it. I said, what do you mean? She burped to Lea? He said, is to believe me. That was cheaper cheaper. He said it's too.
Syrup more dangerous.
He just said cheaper, I said I want every plane. I want every tank. I want the goggles. Same night goggles have all this stuff that these guys now have you said sir it's cheaper to get out and leave it. I said see you think it's cheaper to leave 150 million dollar brand new airplane in there than it is to fly it out with a tank of jet fuel and put it in Pakistan or just fly it directly back, it's cheap early, I said this guy's nuts.
I'm telling you he was so stupid. He was so unwise. He was like an unwise man. And there were a number of them but I defeated Isis with the greatest generals, I had a guy who was so great, I flew to Iraq and I met the real generals, not these idiots that we deal with and we knocked out, you know I defeated a hundred percent of the Isis caliphate. They said it would take five years. I did it in a matter of a few
Literally a few weeks and we hit them hard and he said so we're going to hit him here. We're going to hit him. There were going to hit him here there and I said, this guy's great. I like this guy I was told it would take 5 years, that's why? I went I said, how could it take five years? We have brand new Fighters, we have the best planes, the best weapons, the best guns, the best bombs. How could it possibly take that long? And I flew to? I flew end left at 3:00 in the morning. Nobody knew I was
Going. I got on Air Force One and we started flying and when we reached about half an hour away from Iraq, that was where the airport was big airport about a half an hour away they said sir I'm sorry you'll have to turn off all your lights. Why we're getting close to our site? Our land I said give me we spent eight trillion dollars that we can't leave the lights of think of this 20 years. Eight trillion dollars that we can't leave the lights on in a plane.
And I said that's okay. Turn the lights on. I'm not going to fight him to this one. This is because it's
too dangerous too dangerous
because they see the light up in the issue of this unit here. So I said, turn the lights off, then they should. So we can also pull your shades of, that's okay. So that's what the plane was Pitch Black, all the lights outside, you know the blinking too long? The blinking red. They were all turned off and I like to sit with Pilots a lot of times and these guys are specimens, I would say they're better looking than Tom Cruise.
Okay, and there are even taller like perfect specimens. These guys, like for a fighter, you know, you have some guys had a perfect specimen, see, right. And, you know, they picked a pick the best pilots in the Air Force, United States Air Force to fly Air Force One. And I get up there and I'm sitting, and I'm feeling my way up, you know, it's up on yourself 47. So you go through the stairs, but I sort of knew my way up there, wasn't a light and the plan I'm saying, can you imagine we spent
Millions of dollars and we're trying to fly-in blind but I got into the plane. A cockpit is dark black, little tiny light. You could see the pilot a perfect looking human being his cope while everybody was perfect. There were like movie stars, you know, it's like, I could have cast a movie with these guys and nobody would believe it because there were two good-looking. So I said, how we doing Kevin is there will be landing in ten minutes and I look outside, there's not a light and I'm so you know, I've landed a lot of planes. I
And you see like, little lights. At least, there's nothing, it's just pure desert and I said, okay, Captain good where I'm looking that were did yet. You've been in many plants word, has the computer science. A 1059 goes 1908 hundred. It's a computer voice Purcell, sir. But it's incredible voice 700, she kept in a way. Okay, I'm look, are we okay, captain.
Lights. And I'm looking in a normally when you land up because I sit with knows about, I think it's great. I think it's a great profession, everything, it's a great, their incredible, these machines are ground. He said sir were fine, no problem sir. I said you know I've got I don't see the lights up there. Captain sure we're okay. You know, so I mean I'm exaggerating a little bit, you know. Probably exaggerated will tell the story. They'll say Trump was a coward. So I'm sitting with her u.s. 504 and I'm sick. And I'm tellin you that
It wasn't a light on the runway nothing and we're going in. You okay, kept everything good? Yes sir, no problem. We'll be down in about one minute sir, and I'm telling you Joe
You know there's always a light there's not a little pin and all of a sudden and you hear blah blah Perfect Landing like glass. That's how good. I mean these guys between the equipment and its genius. Its pure, it was so dark. You couldn't see a thing that was no Runway. You wouldn't know where the hell you are, you're in the middle of a desert and then I got out of the plane. I said, thank you Captain. It's a great job and then I got out of the plane and I'm going down and I see
General. And another General and I see a staff, sergeant, a drill sergeant, and a various guys, all Central, Casting Central Casting.
They said sir would you like to rest? I said I don't want to rest. I wanted to figure out what the hell we doing with Isis? I'm hearing we can't is going to take years. No sir, we can do it very quickly sir. Anyway, we go into the room, we go. And I mean, Biden would have taken a nap for four days and then left without a meeting. So we go into the room and is they have these guys, I say, how long can you do it? How long we can do it in a couple of weeks there? If it wasn't me, they told me five years, we can do it in, he gave me an o.
Ombre look like just like in no time. I said, why haven't you done it? Because the orders came in from Washington sir and they would come here and tell us what to do. Don't you challenge that we're not allowed to do that? Sir? That's not the military way they tell us what to do and we have to respect them.
I just so, do you think that it was incompetence? Why they didn't go after
Isis? I think it's a bad system. You know, when Matt is goes there or when Millie goes there, who's stupid and they tell these guys that are actually smart what to do.
And the guys that are smart are saying we don't like what they're doing, but they're not allowed to sort of write counter. I plus the guys that went there are arrogant, you know, they're arrogant fools are like stupid fools, the way they pulled out of, you know, the way they as an example, the way they pulled out of Afghanistan with the people falling off the plane. So it also destroys so it was it was worse than Vietnam with the helicopters Fallen. It was so bad. There was no reason for it anyway so we knocked them out. And
I mean, we have great military, we have great people but not the television guys, and I rebuilt the military and then they gave a chunk of it. And I have to say, as much as it is, it's a tiny little piece, believe it or not, we have an unbeliever, I rebuilt the military. I rebuilt our nuclear, and in a way, I hated to redo it, but I got to realize how powerful that nuclear is Joe.
One bomb Israel has gone but forget one bomb could take out the entire East Coast. It's so bad and I watch these poor fools talking about our oceans will rise one eighth of an inch over the next 500 years. I've been we have people we have countries right now your five countries and don't underestimate North North Korea. If you take a look at North Korea, there knew I was there, I mean, I was with Kim Jong, I had a great relief.
Along great with him. You know the Press has he got along good, that's a good thing, it's not a bad thing. It's a great thing. Obama thought we were going to go to war with North Korea. When I met with Obama, just prior to the Takeover. You know, you meet you have it's sort of a ceremonial meeting, but it lasted a long time, a lot longer than was supposed to last. I said, what's the biggest problem? He said, North Korea.
By the time I finished I was we wouldn't had no problem with North Korea. We were really, it was a little tough at the beginning. Remember he said, I have a red button on my desk. I said I haven't read, but also but mine's bigger than yours and mine works. I like how you call them Little Rocker, Man. I said I said got a little rock. I said, little rocket, man, you're going to burn in hell and it was a rough. Yeah. Oh so rough that people were worried. This is crazy. And then one day I got a call sort of like a fight. I got it.
Call, you know, you have assumed that pounding from then all of a sudden, but I got a call and it was from him. Meaning his people, they wanted to meet, they wouldn't meet Obama, he tried to meet, they wouldn't even talk to him about it. And I think he expected to go to war, actually, do I believe he expected to go and we checked in nuclear stockpile. It is substantial. I mean, it's right. That's why I said you do anything. I got to know very well. I got to know him better than anybody anybody and I said
The do anything else? Why don't you go take it easy and relax. Go to the beach. You beautiful beach? Nice. Beachfront property. You know, kiddingly I said you're always building nuclear. Just relax. You don't have to do it. Let's build some condos on your Shoreline. They actually have gorgeous stuff and he said, I just have to do it because I need it for my safety at said, I got to know him very well. We had no problem with him. If you have a smart problem, if you have a smart really the right president, a smart president,
you're not going to have a problem and I say to people, we have a bigger problem in my opinion, with the Enemy from within and it drives them crazy when I use that term. But we have an enemy from within. We have people that are really bad people, that I really think want to make this country unsuccessful. When you look at what's happening at our border, Joe when you have people coming in that when other countries are allowed to empty their prisons into our country with murderers, we had 13,000 and
Murderers dropped in our country over the last three
years and 15,000 rapists convicted rapists. Yeah
drug dealers drug lord. Just the ones that have been here hours. Correct. People from mental institutions. What do you think this hydrogen to hundreds of thousands of major criminals tougher and worse than anybody? We have
these are seeing the consequences of in San Antonio. They taken over a lot of and buildings in Aurora. Colorado, they take it or apartment buildings.
These Venezuelan gang, just the beginning. What what do you think the strategy is? You know one of the things that they've said is that you stopped a bill from being passed but didn't that bill also include amnesty for the people that already here.
Yeah this is years. After the fact the damage was already done
but what was the bill? When the
bill was not even allowed to million people and they were going to get amnesty. It was a horrible bill. It didn't protect us at all.
We should just tell people what the strategy is. So one of the things that's until this, their strategy, one thing that's been very clear is that they've moved a large percentage of these migrants that come in across the border illegally. They've moved them to swing States. Like this is what's going on with Springfield Ohio
right here in swing States. Well that's not a swing said. I'm going to win Ohio by a lot so that's not something. It's called Springfield Ohio to be exact. And yeah, Springfield Ohio is this very nice community?
Of 52,000 people that just had 32,000 migrants that, don't speak the language dropped into their Community, you can't get into a hospital. You can't get into a school. It's gone from a beautiful, little place to a horror show, and the mayor is a nice guy, and the mayor says, we're looking for interpreters, I said, no, you've got to remove them and bring them back to their country mostly Haitians in this case, but they speak.
They speak no language they speak. No no Englishmen. In fact, even the language they do speak. It's I mean they can't get interpreters. They can't do anything. And the mayor's trying to be politically correct. They're all trying to be in Aurora, Colorado, you have the worst, probably the worst gang, MS-13 might even be, you know, those two of the worst gangs. He's a Venezuela gangs, they have taken over apartment complexes, and they're going to want to take over the whole thing and you have a week, Governor pathetic governor
Who's a radical left Democrat? He doesn't know what the hell to do. But you have it in many other communities but they don't like to talk about it because it's, you know, it's bad for the community to talk about it. These people have been LED in here by this imbecile. She's, I mean, it she's a low IQ person
low IQ, but it's also obviously not just her. There's a, there's a strategy was involved in let him shapes. Elijah, the Border. Well, she's a charge the Border but they also they utilize that
A tap, the app that used to be used, it used to be used. I think essentially wasn't it for shipping, wasn't it? When people were this country we used for shipping and now it's used to deal with the cartels, the cartel heads of the cartel rich people. By the way, these are loaded, these people have so much money, they would call up think of this, they call up the app, and the app tells them where they should take their load of illegal, migrants from the Congo.
You know, we have a lot from the Congo prisons in the Congo. I made a little bit of a sarcastic joke, a man named Dana White who you love, who I love. I assume your love. I think that's it. I think he's in a class by him he's probably the reason why you're here.
II. Don't know. Maybe
he's one of the big ones.
He is the greatest guy, you know, I always say every nobody's indispensable, you know, everybody can be replaced, maybe you can't be here, you might not be but they don't truly. I don't think you know the things they sold it for 4 billion. I said, what a Harrell who the hell is going to pay for billion and they made like a great deal
everybody? Yeah. It's because of him that take him out. I think it's all different know. He's the best.
He's also the greatest guy.
He spoke at my at the whole thing with, you know, I just been shot and he got up and he spoke so better than anybody. I mean, who would be better to introduce you? I asked of all the people, I know this biggest people in the world and they all would have loved to have done. They should Dana. Would you do it? It was interesting. He was away.
And he said to the people that, you know, one of my guys called said, I won't be able to do it. I'm she had just left with my wife and family. I will, I said, we said no. Yeah, I was a little surprised, even though I know he was very far away was in some place so, you know, and he deserved it with his family and all the. And then I said, all right, that's a, let's and are. So we'll look at who we going to get and all of a sudden she comes in Saturday. No, I just said he's going to do it and he's coming back in tonight. He's taking that word. Yeah, the guy is just an incredible
One guy and he's like a tough Champion but loyal. Yeah, he's got to be one of your favorite
people ever. My favorite leader. I've been friends with him. For 23 years. I
love still. Would you have? Because you what you're doing? Here is incredible. I mean everybody tells me what I noticed today. I've gone them. You know you're on Joe Rogan take before telling me like I said, it's a handheld, you know, that but it's sort of what you've done here is amazing. Where would you be if you didn't do the UFC stuff? Would you?
This show. Do you think you'd still be doing it for sure? Yeah.
Would it be the same? Would it be at the same level? I don't know, but
you would have. So it's hard to know. I think, you know, one of the things that works for this show, I guess is that I'm involved in so many different things, you know, stand-up comedy UFC, and all the interest that I have that lead to the podcast
when you always want to do you. First of all you
love UFC. I love it. You love the fights.
I mean I want you, you are loving it, they could pay you, nothing. It'd be very,
they didn't pay anything for the first like 13 shows. I did it for free.
Because they were hemorrhaging money and I became friends with Dana and my my position was you're going to give you the best seat in the house. I get to sit cage side for the fights, I got through it and I wanted to help. I was like, I think these are the guys that we had always hoped for and it's really amazing. The sport I started working for the company in 1997, I was the before, the UFC was purchased by zuffa which Dana, where war was, I was a part of the previous owners and I only did it for a couple of years, it was just too much and I was losing money and it was banned from cable because
Of Budweiser and John McCain and you can only get it on DirecTV and so
then I came along and I gave him besides and he lied he never forgot. He loves you for that. He talked, you know, him back in time, just interrupt you for one set. So he couldn't get aside because it was too dangerous, and everybody was against it and they couldn't get license and I gave him the first two or three sides. Yep. And they were great. And by the way, I went to the first fight. I said I never saw anything like this. It was crazy. It was so good. Take the best fight you've ever. It was
Like that fight, right? It was so good. That I gave it to begin again and all of a sudden it caught on. But, you know, when I wasn't in Vogue, you know, I've had time. You probably never had a time, but I had times when I was at exactly invoke, Dana, they called him. He said he's the greatest guy, there's nobody like he said, I'll never say anything bad about that guy, because when I needed because I'm having a hard time at the beginning, they want to pull the plug a couple of times, right? He said he stood up and he gave us
Of that. Nobody else gave us and nobody wanted anything to do and he said I will never end. It was a time where it would have been very popular for him to say, bad stuff about me. He said, the greatest stuff about me said, you're going to try and get me to say bad stuff about Trump. I'm never doing it now. He's a
very, very good are loyal guy, very unusual guy. He's a fantastic. A perfect guy to be at the helm of something so controversial as the UFC less controversial, now image well, now it's huge. Yeah. Well, this was always the thing that
I would hope that it would be, I always knew that it was unbelievably entertaining but I just didn't know if maybe I was crazy, maybe I loved it because I've added this long history of being involved in martial arts and maybe like other people just think it's too violent but can boxing make it? Yeah. Boxing still a great sport, I love boxing but it seems to
be so unimportant. Now by comparison to UFC, don't you
think? I think well you know Dana is working with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. They're going to bring us our morning boxing now. And with Dana at
Some of it, I think box, it could return because the thing is they want to make fights that other people, maybe, you know, promoters don't want to make because they want to protect their fighter controversial fights where you it's dangerous. Like you don't know, this guy could lose and so the Saudis, they're smart. They're just offer a tremendous amount of money and they're putting together Fighter fights that no one else could put together. They're doing that in
boxing. If data is involved, he'll probably make it good. You know the amazing thing though, the the inviting no UFC fighter, they say has
Ever died. And it looks to be much more violent than bucks. Many boxes have died. Isn't it interesting? It ain't it tells me because it takes so many shots to the face.
Yes. And there's also no other options to preserve yourself to protect yourself. So if you get hit in a UFC fight, you can clinch you can try to take the fight to the ground, you know, options mall. So you don't get allowed to get knocked down and they get back up when you get knocked down your concussed. And generally, you know, if a guy's really hurt, they could be finished in on the ground and the fights over. If it's boxing, you have 10
Get up, you get up your head kind of clears, right? You're still in real bad trouble and you can kind of run away and survive until the bell rings. They're only three minute rounds and then you start again. So you're getting repeated punishment to the Head. Yeah, you know, and then there's also the issue of guys, wait cutting, you know, which is a problem with the UFC as well. But wait, cutting and boxing is led to. If you look at death sandboxing, there's very few of them in the heavyweight division, most of the deaths and boxing of the Wide Awake divisions. Because when guys dehydrate themselves to use tools,
Lose weight to make weight. Their brain is the last thing that gets rehydrated like it's very difficult to completely re hide your hydrate, your brain quickly and you only have 24 hours between the way in the fight and it used to be. The weigh-ins were the day of the fight. Like, when when Boom, Boom Mancini. I don't fight with duck who Kim and killed him in the ring, which is one of the last ones on television that we've seen is right. That was a crazy event for people and heartbreaking and it led to a bunch of different changes. And one of them is day before weigh-ins to allow people to
Hydrate better. And the other one is they dropped it from 15 rounds down to
12, which look they should do that. I get, you know, I'm not, I'm not the fight or so but those 15 round fights were
unbelievable. Unbelievable, unbelievable. Yeah, you go terms of
golden age? Yeah, in terms of entertainment. Oh yeah, those were the championship reps. Those were the greatest
fights. Those last three rounds were crazy. I was branded such a war of attrition, you know, a lot of people think even like a five-round UFC fight at UFC is 5-minute rounds. It's so.
Much energy you're burning out and those last couple of rounds, those five, round fights, the fourth and the fifth round, unbelievably
brutal. Who's the greatest UFC fighter in? You? Are you allowed to say, in your opinion, it's tough for you to say because you do this. But who do you think is the greatest of the
fighters? There's there's a lot of arguments for who's the greatest of all time. You know, Jon Jones. Most people would say is the greatest of all time never lost its as there's certainly a really good argument for that, there's another argument for Georges St-Pierre.
Always leave and BJ Penn in his prime Anderson Silva and his prime you know, Mighty Mouse people forget about Mighty Mouse because unfortunately, he's a smaller guys £125 flyweight Champion. He's one of the greatest expressions of mixed martial arts I've ever seen. I think, to this day and could be, what about could be fantastic? But if you looked at the accomplishments, in terms of championship fights, could be retired 29 and oh, but he didn't have any probably never lost around, they say have lost to glaze and t bow, he might have lost
To him around, I lost around. And that was a controversial fight, where people think that glazed t bow could have even got the decision that fight. I'd have to go back and watch it again to make a decision, but they're great athletes. Do the best athletes in the world. And the most dangerous sport in terms of like, it's hot. I always call it high level problem, solving, with dire physical
consequences, that's what fighting is. You know, I never forget. So there was a fighter named James Tony Tony. Oh yeah, like James Toney my thought as if
Really light fighter. And he ended up is a heavy weight on. I went through everything, he was almost like a
lightweight. He went from middleweight all the way up to heavyweight. Yeah. And he'd eventually feel as a heavyweight and he was a real fighter. Oh
yeah. So James Toney. And I think it was say, George Soros, a St-Pierre. I think it was him. Who did he fight? James
Toney? No James. Tony didn't fight Georgia and he fought a UFC fighter. Yeah, Randy Couture fought James Toney. Was it when I was like an easy fight, those are very easy fight. Brandy code.
George's took him down and it was the most and he's
half the size and he just once he got to the ankles Vector down, sir said it's over.
Yeah. And he put him in something took him down mounted. I'm strangled them was 14. So he was a nice guy, but he was
talking big because he was much bigger. Who's I think pretty big games just
wanted to make some money and you think? Yeah, I forgot it but was it was
over very quickly. It was lying sleeping on the bed and he was talking, you know, who's doing the Muhammad Ali stuff. But it didn't work out but I remember the fight. Yeah, that was CO2, a probably. Yeah, she was
going to her George.
Never fought a boxer in an MMA fight. If he did, he would kill them. We see was he one of the greatest? Yes unquestionably. That's the argument is like a handful of guys you can make. The argument is the greatest of all time. People forget about Anderson Silva in his prime, he was Unstoppable. It's but that anything Sylvan is Fedor Emelianenko. Who fought pride in his prime? He was Unstoppable. There's, there's this. You have a couple now that we've had so many now, Alex, Pereira? Because there's an argument that he's the he's looking for power plants working. Very good. Yeah.
Unbelievable but it's like Fighters can only compete at that level for so many years and so my opinion you have to judge them at the very Peak. You can't judge them when they're hanging on and still fighting you can't judge them when they're coming up you got to judge them in that Championship Peak and that Championship Peak, there's a handful of guys that you would consider at the very top. They
stopped a little bit sooner. Yeah, some of them would have had, you know, I mean they're a couple of that you just mentioned without mentioning names and they stop they had the perfect they were
And then at a certain age, they start getting knocked out,
right? Yes, it's unfortunate. But the thing is that same belief in themselves that lets them become a champion. So makes them think that they can do it long past the time that they actually can,
well Anderson Silva was essentially unbeatable, and then he lost it laws when then, all of a sudden, he just
got knocked out, he got knocked out by Chris Weidman, right? He was kind of clowning in that fight famously and click Chris Weidman had a vicious left, hook knocked him out, and then they fought a second time, and he broke his leg on Chris Weidman. That's right. And after that,
That fight. He was kind of never the same because that, that leg break injury, which Conor McGregor had. There's quite a few Fighters. That was why I haven't actually one of having the same injury. Ironically is only been like it, never you never the same because you can't kill the same you. Well, you can Weidman is still kicking with that let you can. But psychologically, when you throw a kick and your leg snaps in half and you're in agony for a year, right? You have to get surgery, have to get bolts and plates to keep your leg together and then it takes forever for it to
heal. It always amazed me.
The kicker, I mean you have those cases but the kicker will do tremendous damage to somebody's leg but they're like doesn't seem to get damage, isn't it? So does his damaged it hurt more
than you do but your shin you your skin gets very numb after a while and guys that are really good kickers, they're kicking the thigh and the kicking the kicking that you kicking soft areas and they're slamming, this hard, numb Shin either Shin gets all these like micro fractures all over the shin and it calcifies like these guys
I can kick baseball bats ever seen break, baseball bats with their shins. I mean, it's crazy. Some guys can do to baseball bats. So, I'm going to hold the baseball bat and then just kick right through them. This is like your
enthusiasm now, right? Yeah. And it's like, that's why you're good at what? That's what you nobody does, this better that it without the enthusiasm? Forget it.
What has to be authentic like that? I mean, the only reason why I do MMA commentaries because I'm very interested in it for real. It's I'm not have to manufacture it, I'm very interested. So I you love
And they're after the fight and they're sweating all over this slopping. All of you, your beauty got
me that bleeding. Sometimes our knows that bother you a little
bit. Yeah, like two weeks ago with the guy was here. I never saw a little Roundtree. Yeah he more stuff came out of his
nose. Yes it was pretty nasty but no, I'm very used to it. I just wanted to be able to express
himself done, a great job.
Thank you. Thank you, Jeff. So back to you and back to what what are you? And first of all, I love this idea of you teaming up with Robert, Kennedy.
Right and I love this. Make America healthy again. Yeah, idea because there are chemicals and ingredients in our food that are illegal in other countries, because they've been shown to be toxic. There's pesticides and herbicides and there's a lot of shit that's been sprayed on our food, that really is unnecessary and there's a lot of Health consequences that people are suffering from a lot of these things. And too short for you buta because I had a feeling you'd be asking me that look at this chart.
These
Healthier countries. Look what the United
States is. I'm going to send this to RFK
jr. This is well, something along the line. I was actually talking to RFK today and he told me that more than 70% of young men are ineligible for the military because of their health.
I could see it. A lot of raised, a lot of its
obese. Here's the life expectancy of Earth versus Health expenditure, same chart. Yeah did you see that USA? Yeah it's pretty good Jam, he's the best, he's very
Good. He's the best.
So don't know. But look at that. Look at me. You're
not good in this pendulum, that's our diet. That's sedentary lifestyle, that's our diet. That's the chemicals, we ingest. That's what that
is. But RFK is going to be very you know I I think he's a great guy. I think
is the fact that you guys teamed up. Yeah. And are you guys are you completely committed to have him a part of your administrator? I am.
But the only thing I want to be a little careful about with him is the Environmental because you know he doesn't like oil. I love oil and gas. I
You know, I think it's keep them out of the fire. So I'm going to try to keep him out of a little bit. I said, focus on health focused. You could do whatever you want but I got to be a little bit careful with the liquid gold, you
know, I understand. But listen, there's plenty of good work. That could be done. If you focus on health, he's 0. And that is the one that my all-time favorite. What does that see? The error right here? That's what I love today. I have anyone that is pressuring you to not work with him. Have there been peanut work? We do RFK jr. Is there
Yes, I would imagine because financially put it that I would say that.
And you know, the I think in many ways, they've done a good job in many ways, they've done a bad job, but I would say that the big Pharma
Wasn't thrilled when they heard that, you know, I have early. I've actually always gotten along very well with him. I've known him a long time. He's a different kind of a guy's very smart guy and he's very sincere about this. I mean, he really is, you know, he thinks we spend a fortune on pesticides at all the stuff and then you end up at that chart is a terrible shot, the one previous, it's such a bad chart when you look at where we are compared to other countries that don't spend 10 cents, right? So, you know, and you save a lot of money, but yeah, we I've had
And people that aren't exactly thrilled. You can imagine, right? Sure. The good question actually.
Well, certainly, if there is, it doesn't affect me some pharmaceutical drugs that have been prescribed, that have negative consequences that these people have been profiting off of and then you have a guy like RF K Jr, who spends an enormous amount of time, highlighting those things you could say, how they've been very reluctant to have you support him?
I would say. That's an understatement.
Yeah. So how, what do you do to stop that from the city in the
way? Well,
Look, they've come up with some amazing things. I mean, I don't know how you feel. I know you're against the Vex certain vaccines, but like the polio vaccine people had Polio there were it was like a disaster and they came up dr. Salk and he came up with a vaccine and there's no polio. Now, very interesting that hasn't been polio, but now in the Gaza Strip, can you believe that they have, you heard that there's been a big strain of polio coming out in the Gaza Strip, is it
vaccine derived polio? Because you know, there's
Is a strain of polio that comes directly from the vaccine because unfortunately sometimes I vaccinate people for polio.
I see ya, I'm see happen. Yeah. I mean all I can do is I sit down and I listened to him and and I'll give it a total. I would love him to be right, because it's, if he's right, it's a lot less expensive, generally,
there's two things that people point to when they point to the dangers of the pharmaceutical drug industry. One thing is when pharmaceutical drugs were allowed to advertise on television
Low vision where only one of two countries in the world that allow pharmaceutical drugs to advertise on TV. The other ones, New Zealand, but they're they're more restrictive than we are.
People are judge those as when you hear like you know take a certain drug, and then you hear all, then you say it causes cancer and baldness would like all the suicidal ideation that and eyesight and you can lose your vision. Yeah. And, you know, I just, I actually asked one of these guys, I would never take him into courses, things that are so bad. They go through a whole list. I guess they save some liability, but men,
I said, does that affect the purchase of they say it really does when they when there's something you haven't you read and then they go through the list of side effects and potential side. It's not even the potential side effects. I mean a lot of people are just I asked that question people here that when I hear it, I'm going to take a piss and says, may affect your vision, may cause by
blindness. May this. Yes. But y know you're aware of Carolyn Casey means right? Yes. Well, what
One things that they pointed out. And this is a very important thing for people to understand is what a lot of these drugs do is they they act to to somehow another mitigate, the effects of poor metabolic Health. But most of these problems that these people are suffering from wouldn't exist. If we put an emphasis on metabolic Health, if people got healthier, they started eating nutritious food and taking vitamins. A whole host of these problems that people are having would go away and
Problem with that from the pharmaceutical drug standpoint is, they wouldn't be able to sell drugs, these people and this is and your best decides
and things like that on the plants. And what do you think of
that terrible? Well, I think regenerative agriculture unfortunately is very difficult to scale to a point where you got a Jack In The Box on every corner, this, right? Everybody wants food and we have food deserts and we have places like Los Angeles, where no one's growing every anything and everything has to be shipped in. And it's very difficult to feed that many people. We've created this incredible.
Society where we have these enormous cities, but it's in, it's very difficult to get food to these people. And then, for a lot of these people in low-income areas, the only food that's available is cheap, unhealthy foods. And we could fix that dock, that's if we could send a hundred, seventy five billion dollars to Ukraine, we could do something to fix a lot of the health problems that the United States has. And I think it would hurt it would help us as a nation. Overall it just if you just put it out there that hey as a nation, we're going to make a concerted.
Rooted effort to get people healthier, just put it out there and people start making better
choices. Well, when you look at that chart, I was crazy. I just they just gave you that check because they said, you may want to discuss this topic which I know is a big topic for you. And when I looked at that chart and I looked at how unhealthy we are as a nation. That's a, that's a pretty big, how are you? So healthy.
Is it golf?
No, it's genetics. I believe, you know, I'm a big kinetics as a big fact. I really am in. My father was
unfortunate is a big factor for health to. Some people are just way more robust but you do play golf a lot and that is both of my
parents. It's for me, it's good. It fresh air really is especially about said yeah. Even mentally you're focused around three footer and for some for a couple of hours you're not and I go quick. I play Fast real fast and I'm in a mount, but you
You know, it gives me I was never one that could like run on a treadmill or just and I can do it. You know, when passing a physical, they asked me to run on a treadmill and then they make it steeper and steeper and steeper, and the doctor said it was at Walter Reed. They said it's unbelievable. I could have got, I'm telling you, I felt. I could have gone all day but I said, doc, I can do this all day long. I'm not. I have no problem, but it's boring to me. Do you understand what, just boroff's exciting, but I did it for sure.
Long. They couldn't believe it that I did it and I never did, you know, I don't do it. I don't really, you know I have friends who are running this stuff all day long but I had no problem doing it but it's really boring. So with golf or something you know or tennis or whatever golf as you get older there's something really good about it. And you have competition competition
concentration and it's a great handicap Sport and it's also a thing. I think that's a it cleans your mind because when you're looking at a shot, that's all you can think of when you're
Or
executing it gives you a couple of hours. You know it's interesting like with tennis if you're much better than somebody you can't really play with somebody. You know it doesn't work, you can give them sort of the equivalent of Strokes, right? But it's not this with golf. You can play with a lousy guy and give him a stroke a hole or two strokes a horse up. You know, it's a good handicap because right, but it gives me a little exercise but I haven't played in a long time. I want a lot of, I 132 Club championships.
Didn't you play right after you got
shot? No aware. I what I did.
Is I played with Bryson D, Shambo, you know, Bryson, yes, the pro. He's a great player and we played. It was a certain thing that we played, I guess called breaking 50 or something, 50 would play from a certainty. And if you can break 50, and it got tremendous ratings, sort of like crazy thing. It got term, he's a great guy. But was you played couple of days after you got shot? I don't know. I
know, I actually, that was one of the funnest thing. You really golf
course? I think I did. Yeah, maybe I did.
But I, you know, I really very interesting Lee I'm running for president of the United States. To me, it's such a big deal. It's so important.
So I've got. Now, biggest deal in the Free
World. It's a hundred times bigger than the Super Bowl and it's one person. Yeah, so you're down to two people and we start off at 9 billion because you have 9 P9 billion, they say in the world, who knows what that number is. But you get down to 350 million sales.
We have no idea what we have in this country, but let's assume it's 325 350 and you down to two people. It's the biggest thing in the world. And when I heard, she took off yesterday, and she took out the day before, and she's going to take off tomorrow or the next day. I haven't taken a day off in 56 days. That's a long time. I haven't taken one day off. I don't, I didn't, I don't want to plug up. This is too exciting. Golf is great, but this is too exciting. This is more exciting than anything.
You can do. And also it's the home stretch. It's the home stretch who would take a day off. So we have 11 days left now and think of it. So I think I've gone 54 55 days in a row, no days off. And I make speeches often times, you know, sometimes not but I make speeches and when you make a speech and my speech is last a long time because of the way of, you know, I mean I weave stories into it and if you don't if you just read a teleprompter, nobody's going to be very excited. You got to weave it out.
So you it was Yosef as you say yours, have to get right back to work. Yeah. Otherwise it's no good but the weave is very, very important, very few Weaver's around but it's a big strain on your you know it's a big it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. You got to be careful of the voice. You could lose that voice. A voice wasn't designed. I said today so I made a big one. Last night I was in Las Vegas big one the night before an Arizona big one. I mean there.
All big. We have the there's never been anything like it in terms of crowd. Never been close, never been close. They say he talks about crutches, you know, it's very interesting. So we get crowds that are really big and I say you know, I've never had a story because I don't get good. Press, I don't think I've had a good story in years. I really don't. I don't, I swear I don't think I you you were talking about it a little bit with Oprah, how everybody loved me. I don't think I became president of the United States.
I did great. The second time. I did much better. I don't want to get you in any disputes but I won that S election so easy and not just because it, let me, let me
go to that. What's I want to talk to
you about, here's the thing I did that and now I've gotten the nomination again, and don't forget to get these, nominations you go against very smart people. Rhonda Sanchez was hot. Got to go through him. Nikki Haley was hot. Got to go through her went through everybody record time, right record time.
Got three. Nominations in a row.
One. The first time did much better the second time. But you know, I get millions of votes more the second time and now I'm doing it a third time and it's an incredible thing. I never get a good story, I only get bad press. Now I will say this, it's a lot easier. If you're a Democrat, if I were a Democrat you
get a lot of positive. Probably get a lot of positive. Yeah no it's a creepy corrupt business and the media to a large extent acts as a propaganda arm for the
Democratic party. It's not it's not even believe it.
Yeah, it's Billy. It's bizarre to watch. And most, you know, most young people I think are aware of it. I think most Boomers still, unfortunately, read the newspapers and believe in CNN,
but he's getting younger. Yes, it's getting us a conjunction
and you know, I don't, you know why I consider myself a free Internet. It's because the internet's giving people information that they're not getting from anywhere else. And they like the very fine people hoax, the Russia gate hoax, all these different things that they've done. They tried to pin on you. That's like
it's a clear Distortion of what you actually said blood bath, huh? Yeah. I was talking about
the Auto industry. It's a bloodbath because Japan and and more China are taking our Auto and I said it's a bloodbath. They said he used the word blood bags. Are you
thinking somebody going to be a bloodbath? That's right it's a terrible thing they do but that's the problem with propagandist because they take things out of context and of ultimately what they do is they diminish their own credibility because people don't want to listen to him anymore.
Or because they see that they've done that and they recognize what's going on and they feel insulted their intelligence. Well, look at the ratings. Yeah.
You know, shows like yours. So I have a son is very smart and Tall Baron, right? And he knows all about you, he knows about guys, I never heard of, he said, dad you don't know how big they are there. Big are some help because I don't know who the hell is he? So I cross, I did, he's a dad, he's a great guy. I mean, I said it doing it's a whole new.
New world out there. It's a
different world and you know, I'm going to tick tock
now, congratulations. And I've done really well. No. But, you know, the crazy. Have you seen the numbers of billions, like billions of hits its
Crusher tick-tocks, a wild
applique? And I've done up 30 points. A republican is always down 30 with young people. I'm plus 30, and I want to talk
teca. I think it's had a huge impact. Young people are rejecting a lot of this woke bullshit. Young people are tired of being
Yelled at and scolded. They're tired of these people that they think are mentally ill. Tell them what the moral standards of society should be today. And people are
upset. It's a big, there's a big difference now, but even in just a couple of years, I was shaking hands with people. They're young people. The rebels are Republicans, now
though, you want to be a rebel, you want to be punk rock, you want to like fuck the system, your conservative. Now that's that's how crazy. And then the Liberals are now pro pro.
Facing criticism. Their Pro censorship online. They're talking about how many lating free speech, and that regulating the First Amendment. It's bananas to watch,
Joe, they come after their political opponent. Well, you can't have more guys. I always say, you know, I kid, but I'm not kidding. I've been investigated more than Alphonse Capone. He was the meanest of them all. He'd kill you in two seconds if he didn't like, you're right, I've been under investigation, more than Alphonse Capone only because
His political opponents stuff. And I won. I won the big case in Florida. I'm winning the other stuff you win. But you know what? They did. They did something that's only done in third world countries. They came after their political opponents. Yeah, I could have put crooked Hillary in
jail, not only that but they're never weaponizing it by saying that that's what you were going to do. Once you get an office, quite ignoring what they're doing right now. It's crazy. How
somebody was defending me today. There's no, that's they say that's what you're doing to him. They're
and he's gonna put us in jail. He's going to invest. This is what you're that. Is what you're doing to him. Yeah. A lot of people say, will you do that? Will you do that to him? If to them if you win, you know it's the presidency has tremendous power. I could have put crooked Hillary. I
respected that you didn't because what you said was, it would be bad for the
country. No, I can't. I couldn't even imagine you have Fresno, a secretary say, but more importantly, the wife of the president of the United States of America going into jail.
And if you have a soul, when I'd say something about her, they're all say, I didn't say, I never said it, they say, lock her up, lock her. And I'd always go take it easy, just relax. We're going to win this thing. Take it easy, take it easy. And I'm telling you, I kept it down, just the opposite. Now they say, oh, Trump wanted to put her in your know, I saved her from going to jail. They had more stuff on her and Comey, had it because when Comey got up and he stupidly, because he's a stupid guy to, he goes astiz, a stupid son of a bitch, he got up.
Up, Joe, he got up and instead of saying she's innocent of all charges, he went over each charge and each George was a killer. And he go. And as far as her doing this, she's innocent, and this, and then she's only unfair prosecutor for it. We go. But every time you heard these charges, they sounded so bad. They were bad. And all it was as you wanted more air time, if you would have gone. And said,
Thoroughly investigated Hillary Clinton and she's done nothing. That we feel is wrong. It would have ended instead. He wanted to be up there because he's a, he's a PR Hound, he's a hog and he starts going through. And you know what he had? They had a huge problem because FBI is great. The people they had not the top people, the people, the real people. The people that work. There's like the real generals that I told you about that defeated Isis and record time. The FBI guys are great. I'll
I bet you. I'd be at 95% in the FBI
about. That's right. Underneath. Yeah. And and so
here's the thing. So he goes with Hillary and instead of just saying he goes through each charge, right? And even I was a man, those are bad,
charges, sounds terrible because and this is before I get those charges, don't
forget this. Before I got there right now, he was trying to protect her but he did her a great
disservice because he wanted attention he was still. So I want to, I want to talk about 2020 because you said over and over again.
That you were robbed in 2012, totally. And what, how do you think you were robbed? Everybody always cuts you off. I'm going to,
well, they not only cut you or well. What I'd rather do is, we'll do it another time. And I would bring in papers that you would not believe so many different papers that election was, so crooked, it was the most crooked
election, okay? But give me some examples of how a let's start. Let's start. Okay, top
and the easy ones, okay? They were supposed to get legislative approval to do the things that
They did, and they didn't get it in many cases, they didn't get it. What things anything, let, anybody approval, like, for extensions of the voting for for voting earlier for this all different things by law. They had to get legislative approvals, you don't have to go any further than that. If you take a look at Wisconsin, they virtually admitted that the election was rigged. Robbed and stolen, they wouldn't give access in certain areas.
To the balance because the balance weren't signed. They weren't Originals. They were we could go into this if we could go into the balance or we could go into the overall, I'll give you another.
Are you going to present? Well, let me never like, what do you do think? Let me just give you a gun
before.
51 intelligence Agents, come up that the laptop was from Russia. It turned out to be totally false
51, Former Intelligence
agents, right? They say that made. I don't believe it's this much, but it doesn't matter. I won by like I lost by like I didn't lose but they say I lust Joe. They say I lost my 22 thousand votes. That's like 1/10 of 1% less than that. It's a tiny little thing. 22.
2,000 votes spread over the that spread over this, this period. So 51 intelligence agents lied. They lied. They lied. They knew it was, it was Hunters. It was from his bed. It was Hunters laptop. They said it was created by Russia. Russia Russia. It was the Russia House. The Russia hoax was a big hoax. It was all a big hoax. Oh well that's clear.
Marwan example. There is a good example. They say it made a
17-point difference. That's a big if
Simple. But that's only one and you can go into the ballots where they wouldn't give you access to the ballots. You could go into the ballot harvesting, you could go into 500 million dollars for the lock
boxes, but just in terms of narrative. So there's two things, right? There's the Russia hoax, there's the collusion with Russia, that was never proven, right?
That's what it always proven to didn't
have right, right? But, but they, they talked about it on, but it has two and a half years to prove, but not only that, but it was a constant narrative on
Vision. So that's a constant narrative that gets into people's minds especially low information. People that just watch the news that your inclusion with Russia. So that's one. So that changes the narrative and then you have the 51 Former Intelligence agents that work with the original Twitter and get them to remove links. You can't share it on. DMS, you cannot share that story. They swept that story because they said it was Russian disinformation, even though they knew it was not hundreds, I'm so that's two examples that are real examples now.
Anyone who considers himself a legitimate objective, Observer of American politics, if you really want the best person to win, you would want people to not lie. And the only reason why they got away with this lie was because they continually labeled you as this, horrible threat to democracy and Hitler, they kept saying, you're going to be a dictator, ignoring the fact that you weren't a dictator for the 40 years. Will you agree with the
president? I was actually the opposite of a dictator. I was a very
Straight guy. But look those three things. You take those three things each. One of them by themselves, causes the result to be different. It does. And then you can go into a hundred other things. There's so many we can't have corrupt elections and we can't have open borders. We need a we need, you need to have a country, you need borders, you need Fair elections, and I'll tell you the other thing you need is you need a free and fair press one of the things I like about doing a show like this, can you imagine Kamala doing this show?
I could imagine you're doing
the Shang, we trying on the floor,
he was supposed to do it and he she might still watch it and I hope she does. She's acting. I will talk to her like a human being. I will try to
have a Cooper catchment interview with you. I hope she does because it would be a mess, she'd be laying on the floor comforter shit. You'd be saying calling the Medics. I
think we'd have a fine conversation. I think I'd be able to talk to her. I wouldn't try to interview her. I just have a conversation with her and hopefully get to know her as a human being. That was my goal having her on trying to get her to express.
As herself. Just as he, I don't know if these, I don't think these formats are good. I don't think that two people. First of all, I hate the idea of the presidential debates, because I hate the idea of a Time, limitation on complex ideas. Also, you
have to break, I think you have to have the debate stuff, right? But
the way they do, the debates I think, is the wrong way to do it. I think they should have a conversation, I think you and Kamala, you sit across the table with no one in the room. But the two of you of course, you're not going to shout at each other. Of course, you're not going to, you know, make I mean.
It may get the they used to do
it wouldn't but that would be the way to do it. You just
do it that way the old
cameras on you with no, no one interfering with pressed with with checking whether or not it's factual especially when it's biased because they checked you all those times and they didn't check her with clearly things that were inaccurate, right? So have two people. Just have a conversation with those without a time constraint and also this ideal. They cut off the
microphone and no crowd
no crowd.
Good crazy, too, because you're good at working a crowd, I would rather have a group. Of course I would rather
crowds, but I had no. So they gave me an alternative. I don't think you want to
debate. Why did they want? No crowd,
because they think they thought I wasn't going to accept it. So I believe what they wanted to do is have me, not accept, so they gave me a deal. I couldn't refuse, and I said, he'll do it. Okay? It's like the mob, right? I'll take it. So they came to me, they said we'll debate, Joe Biden. You know, the thing got tremendous rating.
That was crazy, but we'll debate, Joe Biden, but you can't have a crowd. They also wanted sitting down. I said, that's the only thing I said, look, you got to, you got to stand up, you can't really sit down. Brian the old days. They did sit down a little bit but but he gets tired. You got to stand up and they agreed to it. It was a very tough thing. It almost killed it. They wanted to. They wanted to have like desks. We said, they said I think we should stand up and there was the only thing I ask for. I said we got to stand up. I thought it looked bad.
Bad for like the public but they said no crowd and cut off the mic and I said, I can live with it. I mean I could live with it and they thought I was going to reject it. And then they would say he didn't want to debate sleepy Joe, right? That's what they thought
was. Well they try to say that with you and Kamala has well, they try to say that you didn't want to debate her as well.
No, but by the way, with her number one, I'm leading number two, you know, I didn't, they also said it with the primary. So I had
Like 10 12, guys, right in the primer. No stupid, guys. I'm you know, there's a Governor's. And they're centered and not stupid people. Some are stupid, but not all of them. And all my guy said, you have to be in the debate. I said why I'm leading by 74 points. The closest guy to me, I'm like 60 points, 70 points higher. Why would I stand there? Like an idiot for two hours and let every one of them scream at me. I'm going to be. The focus was right and I said I'm not debating and it was a very smart thing.
Because, you know, it was they just killed himself. Republican, primary, the Republican primaries with, I like to bait it. I think the, I think you have to debate, but I like to be fat like debating the like the Rosie O'Donnell debate. I like the baiting when you have a great. Remember the Rosa is very funny. Megan, craziest thing Megan, that was a hell of a question, man. If I didn't come up with that answer a lot. Well, what it was is, you know, that was, we had 28,000 people, that was The Clevelander
Reena with the Cavaliers played right. LeBron James not a big fan of LeBron James but he is a good basketball player. But you know that was the and when I said that that place went crazy and she doesn't have fun, talking know she had like 10 other.
Yeah, well Megan said you said it's other people and you admitted you did but it was funny. It was, it was a comedic timing, mom,
it was fine if that's what they wanted was lucky. I did it because she was drowned, she wasn't that question, but she kept talking, but you couldn't hear to this day. They don't know.
She said, but it wasn't buzzer. So anyway, but we had a good time my time eating timing.
And that's the reason why to have a debate, a debate in front of a large audience and they will use the
Al Smith dinner. I got very good grades. And
that, that was great, very funny, very funny stuff that Tim wall stuff was very funny to us if it's funny. That's a real blend of crazy one. She did. She said that? She had picked him and just want a question. I want to ask her when she was sleep deprived. She said she was suffering from sleep deprivation when she picked him, which is, I was maybe take a nap.
Nap.
So I was okay look let's see how it all turns out. I think we're going to win. I think we're way ahead now everything we're way ahead but but can I bring it back? It's only once, I think they're going to look at two things, they're going to say they should had a primary. Even it was a short primer. Yeah. They shouldn't have picked her and then she's going to session to pick this guy. She shouldn't have picked that guy. That
guy's it just says the lying about Tiananmen Square. Everything made in that. Yeah, the military record assistant. She like, this is she loge
little things so I did McDonald's.
Last week I saw that and I actually got a call from your friends at Google from Sundar. That's pretty good, right? He said this is the biggest thing we've had in years. You, they have McDonald's. I think I did. You know that it was one of the most funny who's a great guy, by the way. But he said this McDonald's thing. I want to tell you, it's one of the biggest things we've ever had on Google. It just hit. But the reason I did and I actually, you know, you never know about this stuff. I thought it was a throwaway. I didn't think our conversations through
So it but I thought that was I thought I'd walk in and that was only to highlight the fact and I have a friend, he owns like fifty six of these McDonald's and he said you want to use when I said. Yeah, I love it. So we went there and the crowd was crazy, you know, they had 28,000 people around the whole thing, did you see the outside? It was crazy. The guards couldn't get their secret service was not exactly thrilled. We had no idea what the hell, but I went into the place and I did the French fry thing, and it just hit, but that's like in life, sometimes you do.
I thought it was like a quick throw away, we're going to be there for 15 minutes and I said I've worked here for 15 minutes which is 15 minutes more than she worked here. She lied about McDonald's and you know as I've proven that she never wanted results. What McDonald's has no information. No, she has no information. She's there's nobody, the manager said, she never worked there. You know, is a certain place and he said, they'd never know. She lied. She's a liar. You know what they do? They'll say, like, on any one of the questions.
Take any they'll say it's the exact opposite of what I say IVF he's against IVF at the fertilization, right? He's an honest exact opposite. I was I came out immediately strongly and for him and they do ads I'm against it. It's wrong. What every single topic and you know, she changed policies on 15. I've never seen a guy change. Anybody change on more than one, you know, you can maybe get away with one her whole
I fracking every single thing that she was for the confiscation of gun, she wants to confiscate. Now, she's saying, everybody should have a gun fact. We're going to get a romantic. I'm going to send her a mega cap, but she's changed. And I don't think people are buying it. I don't think people are buying it. Well,
some people are buying it because they want to buy it because it's blue, no matter who there's, there's a certain percentage of our population that's going to vote Democrat. No matter what that's true, they're pressured, there's their Community, their ideology, it's, you know, that
Good. Right is
evil. I don't understand why. Okay, you have a wall or you have a, you know, I built 570 miles of wall. Everyone said I built a lot of walls. Exactly the stuff but you have a border. What? I don't understand is who would want people to come into our country from places unknown. Like sometimes I'll say about a fighter from Parts Unknown, right? Remember Haystacks Calhoun friend thoughts? Yes, rolled Hearts under the oldest. Those are the eyes that's even before you
But who would want people to come in?
Pouring into our country, we don't know anything about it
but that's I want to ask you this. Why do you think they're doing that? I think. Because you think they're trying to buy votes, do you think I blinked cheap labor? Like, what is it? What's up, guys? It's a couple of
years. They hate our country. They're stupid or they want to buy votes. It's one of those three things. Yeah, they want it now. They are trying to get people registered to, you know, don't even know what the
country. They're trying to give people amnesty people that live here. They're trying to give us to, they want to give them
citizenship and then what he will help.
About what
happening about the amount of money that they've given them, when they've come here, the food stamps, the benefits that even our poor people aren't
getting 200 billion dollars and that's a way low number. That's a whaler, you know, it's interesting. New York has always been like, you know, sort of like always looking for money. They've spent a hundred billion dollars on the stuff. I don't know where they are, and they're not getting the money from the federal government. It's crazy. And because the mayor came out and said we can't,
Live like this. They investigated him. He gets a nice by the way, I called it. I said he just got himself indicted, Hmm. This group is stupid, but they're vicious. They're stupid people, but they're vicious
people, don't, you want to 20 elections? You say, you have all this have evidence that it was rigged. Why haven't you put this evidence in a consumed by did warm and what?
Oh, I did. I have I have books on it and and by the way, books have been written on it.
We have an author named Hemingway who is a great writer. She wrote a book on it, but many books have been written on it. There are books that are what's happened is judges, don't want to touch it. They would say, you don't have standing, they didn't rule on the merits, they rule on the merits, never got there. The judges didn't have what it took to turn over and let's
let's talk about the potential vulnerabilities for elections and election fraud one.
Of them is mail-in ballots. The other one is the if someone can break into voting machines, if someone can hack both equations, those are two huge ones. So, anyone would
ask I think he said it publicly, I hope he did because I wouldn't want to be the winner, but he's a really smart guy, and he's a very good guy with computers, right? You'd say his speed, he's one, smart people
alive. Anybody that can land
that 20-story building and perfect.
And while he's doing starlink while
While he's talking to me
about, he owns Twitter and then he agrees to starlink and tweets on hard times a day,
he's an amazing guy. Yeah, he said to me that unless you have paper ballots it can never be an honest election. That's a big statement. It's a big statement. We should go to paper ballots you know France. Did they went the mail-in voting and it was all messed up. What kind of the amazing thing with the machines? So we have the machines, they cost ten times more. Paper ballot would cost eight percent and they make
a paper ballot Zero Water marks and everything else to very sophisticated. But if you take a look paper ballots, eight percent the cost and you're done by 9:00 in the evening. Right now, we have these sophisticated machine, it goes up to heaven, it goes all over the place and down and around, and they say, we'll need two weeks to figure out. Who the hell won the
election. Do you think that's by
Design? Yeah, I do. I think it's, I think it's very crooked. That's my
opinion. You're allowed to have an opinion. What could is let's say you win.
In November what can be done to mitigate these problems? What could be done at a, you know, at the level that the president has power?
Well, if I win that will be, this will be my last election but I think I, it was to the country. Yeah, but I think I owe it to the country. We have to have Fair
elections. So how can you fix that? You know,
Jimmy Carter was in charge of a commission, you know that many years ago and they put him in scoop Jackson and various Senators. You know, distinguished people that were retired.
And they came up with a report and the reports primary funding was. You cannot have mail in ballots, because if it's a mail-in ballot, you know, I went to the voting booth the last time, whatever it was, and I walked in in Palm Beach and I walk in and they know me. They said mr. President could I see your identification sperm? Here's this. Here's that everything. And then you sit and you, they watch your son and you really. There's not a lot you can do. I mean, if you wanted to be,
Honest, it's sort of beautiful, right? If instead of that, I'm going to send them a ballot, right? It has to go through the postal service's. It has to go through a lot of people. They mail you houses that, you know, the house was demolished and the people of left and it's so bad. The one thing with Jimmy Carter, he had a very strong commission. Was no mail in ballots and we're the only one that does elections. This way anymore, they've gotten away
from and this is a bit ticked up.
Big way after covet, it used to be like soldiers, serving overseas, Kobe to cheat. Yeah, well they used covert to certainly push this mail-in ballot. Another
thing that that's it's a but they use Cova to cheat, but here's another, the last election was a little bit of a, you couldn't even get security, guys. Big strong guys to watch. You know what? You'd call them, they call them a decision. They were afraid to go out. You know, we had we were in the middle of Covent. We were in the middle of Cove it, right? Smack in the middle and they didn't want to die.
Why, you know, they don't want to catch it. It was like, in a way it was weird. It was like a ghost town.
And the whole thing, but mail-in ballots are bad thing
that certainly is a problem. Mail-in ballots are profit every other country Unix other
countries, a voter ID,
ID is the most bizarre argument that I've never seen anybody articulate in a way that's convincing
because I want you
to voter. Well, it doesn't make sense any other way. I've tried to strawman it, or I try to steal man. At rather I've tried to like, look at it from a position, like why would you not want people to have ID and a
Of the ideas. Are she just ridiculous? The I yeah, it is need to get a driver's license but his
now, the next step Gavin Newsom, one of the worst governors in the world and I used to frankly, I used to get along but I don't get along with him because he's just too, you know, it's just a whole con job but Gavin has come the other day, signed a bill that you are not allowed to ask a person. Even ask them whether or not they have voter ID,
the what could be a you careful reason why any because they want.
A cheap. But that would be the only thing that
makes sense, that's taken it to the next level right now. You know, you have ID the Democratic National Convention when they had at the last time I saw, they had a sign like a billboard or they their name of the person where they live, how they live, who the hell their boyfriends are every single. It was at a big picture that's for their, they have an idea. A big idea, it was hanging like you were prisoner. They had these massive cards.
Everything and yet when it comes to the book in theory the most important thing we do, okay? When you go to a grocery store you give ID but for a vote it's supposed to be a sacred thing and it should be a sacred thing no voter ID because they want to cheat.
What doesn't make sense in any other way? I've tried to look at it. No other way. There's a there's no argument that anybody's presented the makes any sense. Why?
You know the funny thing Joe the Democrats the people they all think you should have it. In other words you should have. Yeah. If you go
To the people mrs. Schwartz mrs. Smith mr. Mrs. Jones sure. They say, of course, yeah. Democrats, they say, yes. It's the politicians of don't want it. Like Schumer. And these guys, they don't want it because they want to be able to cheat. Because you know what? If they didn't have it, okay, who is going to vote for somebody that wants open borders. Who's going to vote for somebody? That wants to have men playing in women's sports? You know, I have never had one person come up to me and say,
And you
got to do something to allow men to play in women's sports. Have you ever just, like, I've never been called by a pollster? I told you my little Theory and posters, okay, I'm getting myself in trouble with some of these things, but I don't really care. Nobody's ever, come up to me and said, we want to have men playing women sports and, you know, that I had a funny thing at a property owner. I own in California, I have a woman who's a very good athlete, and she works there as a manager.
ER and Brian Urlacher the big Chicago Bears, great player, you know, 10-time also I guess Hall of Famer great guy, big strong guy and they she said, oh, he's one of my favorite athletes. Can I have a picture? And I took a picture, I sent it. And I noticed she was the size of his leg. His leg was bigger than she was, and I put it out, should men play and whether it's what the whole, it's just a ridiculous.
What's one of the most bizarre and polarizing ideas? That's promoted by the
Hello. Who wants it now unless you're going to cheat and elections, you never going to get nobody wants it, right? I don't think anybody wants it. I've never I've been told everything, you know, you can some people want this.
I don't know of anybody that wants open borders, nobody's ever. Come up to me and say, president, you've got to let the world come into our country right now if they want. So they have 21 million. I think it's much higher than that, because you have got two ways. You know, got a ways where they just walk in, they were good. But and the other thing you have is human traffickers. You have traffickers and they traffic and women and they're going wild. Now, we used to what, you know what, you have to look the trunk of cars. Can you believe it? They put women. And Trunks will put three women in a trunk. These people are savages
Edges are horrible, the worst people, the you and they're making the kind of money they make on drugs are almost making on traffic in now and the thing that's made it hot is the internet. That's what you know but you think of it almost as an ancient thing but it's the internet. But who would want to have these things who would want to have. There's so many the transgender operations where they're allowed to take your child when he goes to school and turn them into a male to a female without parental consent.
Who wants this? Does anybody want this? I've never heard of anyone and I can go into 10 different things. The only way they get them is by no voter ID, you can't have voter ID, they don't want any, they want to cheat, there's only one reason because the voter ID is so basic. It's the most basic things, very basic who would want this, they wanted. So they can cheat because their policies are no good. They're Paula tell you they're very smart when it comes to the
That they're very smart, although they're not smart in terms of politics in a way because what do they have that people want? They really don't have. They give away a lot of Health Care, a lot of stuff. But for the most part, their policies are terrible. Their policy and Military. She's running on a tax. Hike. She's going to raise your taxes. You got to hear this. We are going to raise your taxes and two people clap. But who is going to win with her? All my life. I grew up with politicians lower taxes.
She's put she's politicking that we are going to raise your
taxes. Well, they want to raise the ideas. You want to raise the taxes to the highest earned, I know. But but it really doesn't work errands and billionaires are not paying their fair share. It wasn't work that way. But it's a narrative, right? And it's a narrative that appeals to people that are not doing well and like, yeah, our problems are these rich people are not paying taxes.
Well, the problem is that the rich people going to leave and they're going to close up their companies and then the other people aren't going to have jobs. You know, that's what happens if it does happen in other countries but the Hulk
Cause you brought it up. I'll tell you what. We just he's doing a very good job in Virginia. Glenn yankin. I don't know if you like him or not. Like, I don't know, but they are. You don't have the governor of Virginia. So we have a case where they found, thousands of illegal ballots, a judge just ruled that they have to be able to vote just happened today. Just before I walked in here, I heard a judge just ruled that you have to keep those people in their illegal, they're illegal.
It's now, I think they'll be overturned at the next court. One thing I found because I had a couple of things that they get overturned a little bit, you know, the system because the system, you have to hope that the Appellate judges are honest. Otherwise, we don't have a country anymore, it's very important. But the whole thing, with the legal ballots, it's got to be looked at, you got to have, you have to have voter ID and you have to have additional idea. You have to have an ID that shows that you're a citizen of the country. I agree. They don't want that
either. I agree.
Re one of the things that I wanted to talk to you about is the JFK files. And one of the things that you said was that, if they showed you what they showed me, this was your quote, you wouldn't want people to know it either.
So I I opened them up partially
I was met with from good people. I mean, you know, look up being good people. People that were well-meaning, Mike Pompeo was one of them. He's a good person. They called me. They said, sir, would rather have you not after and I did open him, but I was asked by some people not to open them, there's a Martin Luther King file to, by the way, that they'd like to see. I don't know if you know, but there is that, but but JFK in particular, so
They called me a lot of good people called me people that I you know, that you would find reasonable people and they asked me not to do it. So I said, well, we'll close it for another time, but if I win, I'm going to open them up. I'm just going to open enough. Why didn't you open it up the first time? Because a lot of times, the hesitation addresses people that are still living, there are people that are affected and it could be some National Security reason that for you know, that I don't have to necessarily know about but some very good talented people.
Ask me not to do it. I opened it up and then they said, would it be possible for us to do that a different
day? Well, how much of it did you read
into it?
I think it's going to be just fine to open it. Let me put it that way. I think it's fun. It's going to be time. It's a cleansing you know it's really a cleansing. So I'm going to do it I'm going to do it immediately almost immediately upon entering office.
Well the thing would people look at it from the outside and you sort of imagine what could be a reason why they would not release those files? It would be. There's people that were implicated. That's why I'm gonna assassinate. Yeah. Well when they're living people, you generally tend not to want to do
When people are still
living living, people that formerly worked for the
government, for the government and living people that were somehow involved in it. And you tend not to do that but it's time to open them. I can't tell you whether or not they're going to find anything of interest and I did partially. Oh but I think I've opened 50%. But I was asked not to do it and I thought that was a reasonable last but now I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it very soon. There's a lot of interest in it. One of the things that allow
Out of interested in the people coming from space, you know? Yes. And I know you're interested
very interested in that. How much they tell you about that a lot? Really? Yeah. Well, they tell you how much can you tell? So, I how's that work? Is it like super top
secret? You know, tell me, well, based on Hunter Biden, I can say, whatever the hell I want, right? But no, but I interviewed a few people. It's never been my thing. I have, to be honest, I have never been a Believer. I have people that area 51, or whatever it is. I think it's the number one tourist attraction.
In the whole country or something Area, 51, unless they do. You know that right? Sure. I know what it is. So anyway, but it's a big tourist thing. So I interviewed jet Pilots.
That's a, they saw something. If you saw them, you'd love to have them as I've had a couple in here.
Commander, David favor? Yeah, I had him in the who had that siding in 2004. Very, very compelling with visual version of video evidence. Radar evidence
is Ryan Graves. I don't believe his name but I interviewed jet Pilots. That were solid people, the perfect. I mean, great pile is great. Everything.
and they said, we saw things sir that
We were very strange like a round ball but it wasn't a comet or a meteor. It was something and it was going four times faster than an F-22 which is a very fast plant you know.
And it was round, which is in theory, a great shape.
So when you were talking to these people was, was this something that you were compelled to have conversations about was his your personal
interest a little bit? It's not a great interest for me but it's a little interest I get that question as much as almost any question. Do you think that we have aliens coming you know flying around or whatever? What do you think?
There's no reason not to I mean there's no reason not to think that Mars and all these planets don't have life you know
because Mars we've had probes there and Rovers and I don't think there's any life there,
maybe it's life that we don't know
about well maybe there was life there at one point time. This is a speculation about Mars that Mars had an atmosphere at one point in time. A long time ago that could support life, it also had large bodies of water but we've had no evidence of even bacterial life that exists on Mars but the universe has been hurt.
Big
things for me. I mean, when I looked at what China did to this admit, they would have never done it with me, where they put the balloon up. And a lot of people that a lot of people thought for a little while that that was right one of these things. So that's a
lot of the speculation to that. Some of these drones that hover over battleships at these are Chinese drones and that they're not
UFOs. It could be also there's some super sufficient. I did interview, let's say three or four guys that and without tremendous interest, if you had them
As I said, you'd love to have me as your children solid, beautiful people. They said, sir, there's something there, you know, they there's something there. Yeah,
yeah, I've talked to quite a few and I conspiracy guys. Well, I mean, the just the commander David favor thing in 2004 off the coast of San Diego, they clocked that thing. Go from 50,000 feet above sea level. 250 in a second. Yeah. They don't know what it is. It's tough to beat. Yeah, they saw something in the water. It was hovering over that something that was making a disturbance.
Water. They got video evidence of this thing to different fighter, jets with pilots in them, saw it. There's you know, Visual Evidence photographic evidence video evidence, radar evidence, whatever the hell it is, it moves in a way that would turn a human being into Jello. If you're inside of it, the g-force, you know, one would survive. Oh, so like what is that? And we don't eat. They did. It doesn't have a heat new signature. They don't know what their propulsion system was,
but when you fly in some of these Jets,
These Pilots have to be in
great shape. Oh yeah. I flew when you do angels ones. Yeah. As an example, I, I guess those are all
dirty and those are older machines and they're crazy when you when you fly and some of these things. Oh my God, guys again. Yeah, I can imagine got to be special
but these things that these people are encountering, are far, superior to what we know of. Yeah. Is it possible that there's some military or government program that you weren't that they didn't tell you about?
I think I had a great relationship.
Up with the military basically. But, you know, I didn't like certain people, I would have gotten them out. If I thought if I were, if the election was different, I would have fired. You know. All of them quickly. Something most of them I did for Biden should have fired every military person involved with Afghanistan. He should have had a lot of fire. He's, you know, if you look at him, he told Israel not to do anything. At least Israel is not going to looking at a bomb the way they would have been think of they listen to Biden. They'd be waiting for a bomb to drop on their head.
Dow.
He's been wrong about so much I guess you'd have to say that she's been wrong too because you know they she always said they made the decision together but Israel didn't follow his advice and I think it was a very you know there it's a very the Middle East is rapidly. Changing, you know, there are profits to say the world will come to an end in the Middle East, you know that right. And we have weapons today that are so scary when you look I rebuilt them all.
And when you look at the weapons we have today, the biggest threat we have in the world today is nuclear weapons and we have other weapons to that a devastated, but the nuclear weapons. The biggest threat we have in the world today and that's what you I was talking about D, escalation with both China and Russia. I'm telling you we were going to deescalate, they were going to deescalate. You got to be careful where it's a little tricky playing with them because they said we're going to do it and they don't do it. Maybe,
But they understood the curse to it's a curse. It's China's way behind us, but they'll catch us within five
years. So let's imagine, let's let's say you win in November, what do you do differently? And how do you change this course that it seems we are on for World War 3? How do you get us out of Ukraine? How do you stop? What's going on in the Middle East? How do you put a stop to this?
Well, it's a very to me, it's an easy question because I think I can do it easily but it's a complex question in the sense.
It's that the times change everyday changes, who's winning, who's not winning. I mean, Russia is a war machine whether you like it or not, it Just grinds along grinds. Along you speak to people like Viktor Orban, you'll tell you. It's a just a big fat War Machine and that's what's happening. You, look at what's happened to Ukraine. If I were there, it would have never happened. But what you, what could you do? Now,
if you got an office chair, what could you do now?
Right now, you would get both of them. I know both very well and again I cannot I do not want to tell you what, you know, for the purpose of looking smart to five people that you know that say oh he was great. Because if I told you exactly what I do, I could I could never make the deal. All I can tell you is that I would meet with Putin and I would meet with him and I know exactly what I'd say to each one of them. And I believe that, as president-elect, I would get that war stopped and stopped fast.
Just, you know, we have tremendous power in the United States if you know how to use the power. I stopped other Wars just by the use of tariffs. I got mccrone of France. Good guys like a friend of mine but he's a wise guy and he's a person that likes friends said he was going to tax our company's I say you. And I said all the smartest, guys I sent minuchin and they all failed me and I said I'll do it myself when I called him. I said a manual your taxi American companies. We're not going to
You to do that. Oh Donald I cannot do. I was nothing I could do. It's already been passed. I said a manual. If you do that I'm going to put a hundred percent tariff when you wines and Champagnes are coming to the United States and you're going to regret that you have identity. So don't please? That's not fair. Anyway, within about two minutes, you drop the whole thing and it was massive amounts of money against American companies. I have to protect American car so why doesn't the bod Administration to? Because they're incompetent. They don't know how to talk now.
Look they met in Alaska with the Chinese and the Chinese lecture them about how badly we treat people, right? Okay. I mean think of it, you remember that? It was like in a they didn't talk to me that way. They never, they respected me, they respected our country, they don't respect our country, they don't respect Biden, they don't respect her. They're dreaming about her because she's incompetent.
He's not a smart person. Look, she can't put two sentences together, she talks. I watch her two nights. I watch the last night. It was the same thing. She's not a smart person. These guys are very smart, and they're very StreetWise. And they're very tricky and evil and dangerous. And if she becomes the president of the United States, which I can't believe can happen, I don't think this country is going to make it. I don't think we'll ever be
I think, I think bad just really bad things will happen to our country and you know what? I look at the outside forces and I say they can all be handled because we have a pot of gold, but we're not going to have that pot of gold to play with anymore. You know what's a great negotiating thing I told you I knocked out this massive car company going to take all of our car business from Detroit. I knocked it out just by my rhetoric the rhetorically I said,
They'll never sell a car in here. I'll put tariffs, I don't care. They're 2000%. They're never going to build that plant. Is it
possible to apply that same thing to the electronics that we use? One of the things that it disturbs me greatly is that all of our phones are made overseas and then some of our phones and made in place of chips. Yes, and the chips. And some of our phones are made in places like Foxconn where they have Nets around the building to keep people from jumping off the roof because they have so many suicides like, wouldn't it be better to have an American-made iPhone where, you know, people are paid good wages, they have
Insurance, they're taken care of. They can live a good life, where you're not buying a piece of electronics, that's cheaper because someone has to suffer a horrible in a horrible way. That's not even legal in the United States. It's not even legal to have them work that way in the United States. So they get these people to build them
overseas. You do it but but let me just say that chip deal. So bad. We put a billions of dollars for riche companies to come and borrow the money and build chip companies here. And they're not going to give us the good companies anyway.
All you had to do is charge them tariffs. If you were to put a tariff on the chips coming in, you would have been able to just like the auto company is no different more sophisticated. But no different, you know, Taiwan they stole our chip business, okay? They want us to protect and they want protection, they don't pay us money for the protection, you know, the mob makes you pay money, right? But with these countries that we protect, I got hundreds of billions of dollars from NATO
Countries that were never paying us. And my biggest fan is stoltenberg who just left us the you know, director-general as a Secretary General a good guy. He said, Bush came. He made a speech. Obama came, he made a speech. Trump came. He said, you guys aren't paying. You got to pay and they said will you protect us from Russia? If we don't, I said, no, you got to pay if you don't pay billions of dollars came in to Nato. When I see us paying a lot of money to have people build a chip, that's
The way you don't have to put up 10 cents, you could have done it with a series of tariffs. In other words, you tariff. It's so high that they will come and build their chip companies for nothing. In other words, Joe, you put a big tariff on the chips, coming in, I say you don't have to pay the Tariff. All you have to do is build your plant in the United States. We didn't have to give him the money to build up land besides that, they're very rich companies, these chip companies, they stole they stole 95% of all.
Our business. It's in Taiwan right now. They do a great job but that's only because we have stupid politicians. We lost the chip business and now we think we're going to pay you can't build it that way. You have to make them spend their money in the United States and those plants would open up all over and they'll fund them. We don't have to put up 10 cents and I am in the process of making a huge speech at about little while and you. And I, how long have we been talking a long time? Let's go three hours. I got to make a speech, I but we'll do it again.
Want to do it again with you. You are something. They said, I said how long will this last anywhere from an hour to three or four when we did
Jamie three hours.
Good. Well, we'll do it again. I thought it was good. I think it's I think was great as long as you are a fascinating guy and they've done a great job. Thank you very much fan and thank you very much. It's been an honor and it's been around and make a great speech and I'm going to say and about my little off tonight, I'm going to blame you. I
wish I spoke to this guy for three hours
and it
It's a great honor to be. Thank you sir, thank you,
thank you like to. Thank you very much.
