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Welcome to impact Theory, our goal with this show. And Company is to introduce you to the people and ideas that will help you actually execute on your dreams. All right. Today's guest is a real life. Superhero. The first time I heard about him. I really could not believe that he was real. He holds 26, official Guinness World Records for Feats that were long believed to be fatal or just outright impossible. He's run a half marathon above the Arctic Circle.

Barefoot. He's remain completely submerged in ice for nearly two hours and he climb Mount Everest. Wearing only shorts. He's also hung more than a mile off the ground, by a single finger, run an entire marathon in the Namib Desert without drinking, a single drop of water and swam underneath the ice of a frozen ocean, for almost the entire length of a football field. On a single breath, his radical demonstrations of what the human animal is, truly capable of have garnered him devotees.

These and Skeptics in equal measure, but he has systematically silence. The naysayers by subjecting himself to the rigors of science. He has allowed himself to be poked prodded and probed during his insane Feats and in one experiment even allowed himself to be injected with an endotoxin to prove through conscious action. He can mobilize his immune system to neutralize the threat, which is exactly what he did. And when people tried to dismiss him as a genetic freak, who is simply beyond the rest of us. He taught.

I love more people to do exactly what he did and they all got the exact same results. So, please help me in welcoming the man who can raise his core body temperature while submerged in an ice bath. The Iceman himself with him Hoff, man not cold at all. But now,

We're going to get into some of the cold ass crazy shit that you do. And I want to talk about adaptation. What is it about? What you do, that triggers the adaptation response and what adaptation response? Does it trigger the power to adapt to the stressor. In general. We lost this connection is because we wear clothes all the time and we live in a comfort zone Behavior. We think we can control nature, but by being non stimulative in our Behavior,

We lost the connection in the depth of our physiology course, we are able to adapt about to anything. We are built to be able to adapt without stress into any stressful situation. Again a solution, the body knows, but because we got into this comfort zone, Behavior. Hundreds of years. We genetics have changed. Our physiology has changed.

Everything has changed and we lost actually the full power of the mind and I'm here to bring it back. Impact better. Listen to this conversation. Yes, I like that. Alright. So how do we bring it back? I did many studies already because I don't like speculation. I go through study the scrutiny and let any scientist prove me wrong because I like to go.

Through the truth. Because I think there is more than meets the eye. I did many studies and yes, I could resist the bacteria as thought of not being able by humans. We changed medical history by showing a group of people compared to 16,000 134 people becoming sick after injection of endotoxemia, and then suddenly twelve hundred percent score.

All within a quarter of our complete control over the innate immune system, and the specific, by the way, the Adaptive immune system. And how did I learn to do that and pass it on because it's already there in US. It only needs to awaken to find the Adaptive immune system. The Adaptive immune system is willfully, regulating and controlling your T cells, and B cells and they are located in the bone marrow.

We are able to willfully influence the bone marrow and to release the T and B cells which are very specific in the targeting on the bacteria, and the virus and apoptosis cell death. They created instead of fever and uncontrolled shivering, and, and headaches, and being sick, flus fever, and all that is the second layer. We got into the, thirdly, into the depth of the immune system into

To the deepest. So willfully being able to get into the bone marrow and release the T, and B cells. In case of inflammation is what we and inflammation. I tell you is the course of any disease either that that's a lot to dive into. So first of all, let's set aside information for a second. I've heard you talk a lot about that, and we're definitely get into it because I struggle with inflammation, but talked to, did you just say that you can willfully control apoptosis. Yes.

Okay, okay, for that. We have the breathing exercises and it has been shown in the comparative study. All the guys who did the breathing exercises, the endotoxin normally creates inflammation and thus uncontrolled shivering, all over Agony had aches and fever and the people really get sick after injected being injected with the bacteria E coli and that's normal, but it was not normal to be able to inoculate.

Late, that reaction. How did we do that? By breathing exercises that are like controlled hypoxia. We're through the brainstem the fight and flight suddenly activates the adrenaline and resets the body. And resetting. The body is going past our comfort zone conditioning going back in our primordial State. The way nature Manda to be and that is being able effectively.

To battle, this East very simple, very effective, very accessible for any human in the world and that we go a step further. A Stepford is the last study wherein I was exposed to cold water and just buy a thought. I was able to make the skin temperature. Not going down. Well, I was exposed to cold water, on my skin eyes water your skin temperature, didn't go. Yes and

Normally it goes down. That is what everybody thinks isn't it? And yes, 74 people before me they did it and they saw all the same Graphics. It goes down after exposure to cold water. And when warm water comes up, then it goes up again and goes down cold, warm, cold, warm, cold warm. And then I did the same. I didn't do anything. Why? Because I'm in command of my breath.

And with that I become in command of my Alchemy and I'm able then to send and to manipulate any part of my body. They looked inside the brain and we're s normally stress comes to wear on the body and that could be called could be hit but could also be emotion, depression. Bipolar, anxiety. Fear ptd. PTSD, trauma. It's all stress.

In the brain and it gets inflamed. And we don't know how to break the loop. Now. They looked inside of my brain while this stressor was gone on and I stayed out of the stressor when the call came in. I just stayed over there and warmth called what I stay in control, then they looked inside the brain and whereas normally the activity of the stress is highlighting the prefrontal cortex.

XD conscious brain because it's cold. Oh, I feel bad because I'm divorced now and this and that and my business is gone and whatever, you know, stress, real stress. And that the insula, which is, normally active, very activated. When you go into deep meditation, then the insula gets a becoming more rat and then this is blue because deactivates the normal

Daily Consciousness and insula. The deep meditation is, oh, and blood flow goes in the deeper parts of the brain suddenly becomes all active and its pleasant. It's nice for work and the stress coming to my body, did not make my prefrontal cortex active and then they saw something very remarkable, which is a robust activation of the PA G which is part of the brain stem.

That is the deepest part of the brain, the fight and flight the survival, but also the area of the hormonal periaqueductal gray hemisphere, which is responsible for the activation of opioids. And we got an epidemic on opioids, isn't it? But we don't know how to tap in and to make these opioids work for us against a. It's like pain-killing analgesia natural ones.

Very strong inside of us. We lost the connection but now it is here. And the other one is the phoric hormones. I the cannabinoid endocannabinoid system, both are there and they saw me activating For the First Time In Medical Science, robustly into that area. That's why it did not only solve the stressor, from not being called. It was warm and the professor's. They had a

School time putting more ice in the water because I was warming up the water and I was doing nothing. That is the power of our mind. And what I can do anybody is able to do. So when people are depressed or bipolar or anxiety, or fear, or trauma PTSD, it is stressed and they cannot break the loop. I tell you, we found the key to break the loop. That's where I am right now.

Now with the signs and now this needs to be implemented for those in need and there are many many in need. So that is so extraordinary. The fact I'm so glad that you were doing a brain scan while you're doing that because I imagined when I think about what you must be doing, I think about something being tense, something being hardened. And so when I've practiced your breathing, its

It's a very active intense like drive, but hearing you talk about it as meditative of tapping into the insular of, you know, activating deeper regions of your brain. And not the prefrontal cortex that paints like this whole other like, emotional connection to have with what you're doing, which changes entirely how I approach what you're talking about. Hmm, which is really interesting. Another thing is they say we are doing

Right now and we got it endorse through the gerund W brick, Mental Health Care Foundation. 1.2 million to endorse a study on the DNA, in San Francisco, with the top researchers over there. If you're changing, yes, or if you have a wheesh in that allows DNA changes itself. It prolongs in cell activity cell division, which is a telomeres, the condition of the telomeres is about longevity and the quality of

Life. If it is not attacked by inflamed transcription factors. Then the DNA genome expression is going to be just nice and right, and besides of that, the protective proteins around to sell our, then through the hormetic exercises or the breathing, you just mentioned together with the cold showers. It is hormetic. Let's dress and hermetic for that. Horror mattock is like

Positive stress conscious stress, your neurology is inside that and it connects with your body, the way nature Mana to be and in the primordial state of our cells, the cells should be protected by proteins. But because of our comfort zone Behavior, they are inactive. Does the flam ettore in impulses through the transcription factors just a little, a salt. And we'll go into the cell.

And they begin to mess up the telomeres, the longevity, the cell division, the condition thereof, and we live shorter, and better, so less. And we are becoming vulnerable for the wrong genome, expressions and that causes diseases because really interesting if this is really shaking down to her mrs. Witch said, another way, is a little bit of bad. Does you a lot of good? Yeah, and so you actually need something that stresses the system.

In a way that most people would think of as bad. Yeah, actually ends up being good and this is where I'm Jarred in the best way possible with what you were saying about it being this meditative experience for you because I think of going in Isis, brutally painful of requiring, all of my discipline and desire to battle through and I wouldn't have thought of it as being something that I have to relax into of, you know, really sort of releasing Letting Go relaxing almost removing myself.

From the certainly removing myself from the suffering of the pain, but I'm curious are you when you're doing this and you've talked about dipping under the ice and going into this meditative State and you've described it with these sound effects, which I always found really interesting. But when you're going into that, do you feel the pain and divorce yourself from the suffering? Or do you literally not feel any discomfort, you feel anything, but you learn to let go.

I follow the breath and thus the hormonal system. The endocrine system, which we have shown in scientific research is really active within your command. And with that comes the adrenaline, the epinephrine, the opiates and cannabinoids. All right. Now, I have a very strong have a really split the really strong painkillers is well, yes, right. Yeah, so that's interesting. So you're saying that you're actually killing the Pain by tapping into that system because you've kicked off all this.

Pharmacology base. Yes. Okay, that's super interesting. What I want to know is when you're going into the meditative State, you know, you've just been injected with the endotoxins. Yes. What are you visualizing? Like? What do you actually thinking when you're trying to get to Adrenaline or bone? Marrow or Italia? If you go into to us, you're really not thinking about your mortgage or your wife or this or that you are not going to picnic.

You feel, the focus will be on your feeling how to get this feeling into adaptation and to overcome whatever is coming and it goes directly. And I tell you the the cold has been my teacher, just follow the teacher, the feeling learned to let go intuitively. I felt, I want to do this. I did yoga did kung fu did all kinds of things and

Great, but the cold is really your merciless but righteous and I was ready to go in. I felt intuitively I want to go in because it has got something. I don't know what it is. And yes, I went in and I felt it the connection. Was there Beyond any word and that's what I was looking for this tapping into deeper, parts of the brain feeling, pure energy field.

Earning power in eight capacitated power. We have to deal with that. I was looking for that, and since then I went on and on, and on and on, I did all these records and many more challenges. I did. Crazy stuff really sitting all the night in in your shorts, outside in freezing temperatures and feel great. That is something that is power and I've been venturing and discovering more and more, and finally, I began to

Realize, but it's all in the mind. Oh, yes. So learning to let go in the right way. Following your breath. The breath is able to Prime the body, and then your mind, the Neurology of the mind, if I'm able to make my skin temperature, not going down. Well, being exposed to ice cold water, skin temperature, that's power. And that power is the same power, we can learn

Learn to embrace and awaken in which we are able to tackle any stressor in the world and he's stressing emotionally and physically and mentally, whatever your come up, we are built to be able to oppose that to get through and to learn and not to be afraid because we have the power of the mind. You can't imagine to what degree I want. That become real in my life. So I'm going to start

Pinning, you down and some things so that I can walk away from this knowing these do, okay. So it it seems like there's two things to your method. Number one is the breath. So what I want to know is when you're breathing in the way that your breathing, which there's a lot of great video on there that will link to in the show notes. So when you're breathing like that, why do you think that allows you to begin to reconnect to something that everyone will call the autonomic system meaning that you don't have conscious control over? What? How does that link?

It. Yes, very simple. These breathing techniques. I've learned to do in extreme cold. So they are stream, Lee effective very soon. I was able to stay and prolong my time in ice water feeling great, but is the breath just about oxygenating. The tissues access oxygenating. Not only to go past in this case to go past the lymphatic knots which normally

It's the oxygen to go deeper. Now. We found a way to go past these knots into the lymphatic system. And with that, you come into the depth of your body and making you able to alkalize your blood within a couple of minutes and with that a when the blood is the right pH degree, then suddenly the Neurology of the mind which is like electricity is able to run through on a

subtle basis. How familiar are you with hyperbaric oxygen? Not too much. I never did that. But so I know it heals infections and skin problems and things. What we do is the same thing, but then naturally we do controlled hypoxia, like controlled High stage train. We just did a study in the Andes mountains in South America on 4500 meters is about

In feet and they compared Diamox, which is used for acute Mountain, sickness, very strong medicine to the breathing and the breathing one. So the breathing is more effective on those height and in those extremes than a Madison and at this, what this is are known and we got eight more studies coming out and man. We gotta power to change to be The Alchemist within our

Body, that's the way nature intended to be. Another thing is they say twenty percent of our brain is working. Fuck that. Man. It is hundred percent and we got a the innate capacity to enter into any part of our brain. And now we have shown to get into the deepest. And with that, we become the commanders of our own mind and body. So actually, we are mammals, we are about, you know, we are built after millions of years.

As mammals. If you geology is inside the wiring and everything is inside. And three times, the world's length is vascular systems inside of us. Killer. Number one in our society is cardiovascular related. It's big time and that is because we wear clothes, we are never being established, a stimulated through cold, warm and pressure. It's no longer there. So, there is a mediocre state of our

Cooler air conditioning and that food that we take cold showers. Then there's some Shock to the system that doesn't harm at hormesis. We do with consciously and with that we connect even with the brain with the vascular system all over. And it's amazing how simple it can be, how simple we can take. Tackle this serial killer their cardiovascular related diseases. We can tackle it a cold shower, a day keeps the doctor away. What?

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So something that I didn't expect when I started impact theory is the number of people that stopped me the number of people that write to me and tell me that they're contemplating suicide. So,

We get so many people who don't commit suicide, because they found this hmm, because nobody wants not to live, but they don't know how to live, right? And this may reactivates a research, their body to the way, nature meant to be and that is to be happy strong and healthy.

Yeah, talk to me about your wife and how, this is the way I started. My wife jumped from a eight-story down in 95 for children. No money. Just there with four children. My children made me a survive and nature healed me and that was the cold because in the cold you shut up and all this turmoil, the emotional confusion. The broken heart is all physical. It's all real the

Able to shut it up, shut it down and survive. And with that, I came slowly, but surely in control over my emotions and now I am able to make people aware of that capacity, even without cold showers, and all its take, but that's where it came from, how I was powerless. Then with my wife who was schizophrenic and psychos that put

all kinds of pills in and injections, dental work whatsoever. There are was powerless. But now I'm in power in the sub current. I'm working. Now with those kids, they work with me and we get it spread this all over the world that we found a way. How to deal with emotions with the cold with heat with stress, in the brain in the body. We found it. And now I'm almost so far.

That I'm dealing with a new comparative study with Wayne State University and Michigan on a comparative study on bipolar people within four days. I will make them have a absolute sense of control. We're in, they are able to redirect their brain and my balance within the out of balance, hormonal manic, depression, and all. And with that my circle is round.

From being powerless to power. And I'm a Dropout from school. I'm teaching professors and doctors now all over the world and they say, after seeing the results of me in the brain scans. And the way I activate parts of the brain thought of Impossible by humans. They say, this is a transformational technique that will change mental health care and we see it. The cold is my warm friend.

Jesus dude, that's so powerful. So I want to, I want to walk through what you're doing in these four days with people that are in the situation and taking them from not feeling like they have control to feeling like they're in control. Is it? Is it the exact same thing that you would teach somebody that's getting the injection with the endotoxin. Yeah. There's literally no difference. There's no no difference. If people get to me.

And they want to learn how to beat inflammation. Both with physical course. And ie fact as a mental then come, and I'll teach you because when Nature is my master Nature's, my teacher. I just obeyed to the rules and I know it's tricks as he drew again and here over within 4 days, you know, it all and then you, you learn to go into depth into the

six and seven cents a tent all controlled the way nature, that meant it to be. I reset people within a couple of days and then go past the conditioning and then it is up to them, to get out of the trodden neurological path ways and get into the new one. And that they say, they asked me, hey whim. What is Enlightenment? Because I never asked, but I have to ask you because it seems you got some answers. I say well, okay, all bye.

Elgin Carranza written about that shit. So I tell you one sentence, what it is just be happy, strong and healthy and the rest is bullshit. Yes. The way we are schooled is to take on that autoimmune diseases, cancer depression, and alike, and power, a gaining power. And being insensitive is normal. I think it is sick, and we got to stand up and show through scientific research that. No speculation.

And that it is not so and it sounds like what you're saying is the thing that stops us all from that a really like cellular level is inflammation. Yes, so the sort of General root cause because you've talked about being able to alleviate symptoms of arthritis, even thrown in cancer, because to you the root cause of all that is, inflammation inflammation causing deregulation on Cell level in the DNA in the genome expression. So, all the same thing now,

I've learned to tap into the lymphatic system. We just finished this study, within 20 minutes alkalize, the blood in the lymphatic system, which is the deepest one considered to be inaccessible. Now is accessible and it's actually the storage of garbage chemistry within our body. And now we know with these breathing techniques, how to get a pasta, not get into the slight acidic state of the storage capacity of the lymphatic system and change it into

To becoming alkaline or Clans it when we're getting past the knots. So we're admittedly for anybody watching your way out of my depth. So I'm going to be asking probing questions that are educated but I fully understand. I'm outside my depth here. But when you sleep your brain actually shrinks because the inflammation goes down, it allows certain when you use the word toxins to be flushed out of the brain, things like the amyloid plaques and things that can build up in.

Somebody that ultimately will show signs of Alzheimer's, do you think that what's happening at the lymphatic level is a similar kind of reduction in inflammation caused by the breathing. Absolutely pulling the the oxygen in that. I mean, at least there's like an internal logic that I can wrap my head around which would be immediately clear if it is paired with your parasympathetic activity, which is done on the autonomic nervous system level.

Now, we have shown to get into the autonomous nervous system and to create both sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system activity at will. So if you do the breathing before you go to sleep, or if you do the cold showers, then you will sleep better. So cold. Shower, the day keeps the doctor away. Yes, and it's good. All right. So for everybody, that's about to embark on this journey and I'll include myself in that I want to

When you're 17, yes, the ice water starts calling to you. And also part of what makes this fascinating. Is you have an identical twin. Yes. So one it's fascinating that you guys took very Divergent Paso. If I understand, right. You've begun to teach him your method. Yes, but when you're there at the water and it's calling to you, what, what is that? Like, it's 17. I know you've been searching searching for like I need this.

This, whatever this is, I need it all to make sense. I need to connect to a god or something to fill me up to let me connect to something bigger than myself. So yeah, you have that calling don't know what but it is there and it is inside of me and it's more than meets the eye and all that and it made me at the age of 12, study psychology and going into Hinduism Buddhism and all kinds of esoteric disciplines. And when I was seventeen, ugh, I just had this feeling

A my twin brother who's identical is not able to do only after my training to come up with the results because it's not genetical. It is trained. And so this one is able to be trained by any body. The fact that you're an identical twin. It's like you're the perfect subject. I mean, it's literally crazy. You have an identical twin to be like the the perfect control subject. Yes. Yes, absolutely.

It's like hundred percent genetical score match and he is not able to do it and I'm not and I'm able to do it. So they did certain kinds of experiments and they saw this in scientific environment that I was able to do things and he could not and the later when I trained him, he was able to do about this same Jesus.

That's that's extraordinary. We all are able to battle inflammation. To have a control top down in our body much more than we thought possible, at least to be able to guarantee happiness, strengthen Health, which is all related to hormones, and the control over the immune system and nervous system. All right, let's go the next step. So you've got happiness, strength and health, and health. So what is happiness?

Happiness is all the afford hormones related to the endocannabinoid system. We have absolute access there in at will we only need to invest and exercise into that? Like a child has to learn to walk. So what do you want? Who want to be dependent on pills and this and that and drugs, Etc? Or do you want to get high on your own Supply? It's there. Why do you play guitar?

Music is the voice of the heart of course of your feeling and it's resonance and resonance, get into the brain waves and we have tested this with the Naza equipment doing the breathing makes you able to go into these deep Alpha, Delta gamma waves in can fully controlled, but music shaft. Your greater brainwave just at will. Yes. Anybody can do that? How far could you? Could you go to like if I said,

We're all going to make noise, but I want you to get into a gamma wave state which is like fucking deep meditation. Could you do that in like five minutes or less? Or yeah. Less than T. If I go. Do you do a couple of minutes? I'm getting there. Wow. I'm resonating with that voice with that resonance and that affects certain parts of the brain deeper parts of the brain, who are

it with the voice and and and to Resonance and which is a deeper part of the brain begins to active be activated. Does the blood flow begins to descend into the depths of the brain? And then it becomes enlightened and activate it and gets the nutrients and the biochemistry. That's meditation. All About Now, mindfulness is very much researched and it shows that through mindfulness, you are able to activate deeper parts of the brain. They become

Or Alive because simply the blood flow goes to these deeper part, but what we have seen now in the brain scans, not even seasoned practitioners in, mindfulness are able to activate those parts. You have been activating and I say it's innately capacitated to anybody, but it needs the conscious technique and the passing on of that, not money as here. Uh, but it is there, but it needs to be awakened. It needs to

To be shown, if you always walk to this way to the house because that's your knowledge. You don't know the shortcut, which was always there. God. Is there any way for you to put it into words? So, obviously there's no substitute for the training. But what what is it like there? Such practice meditators, but they can't do what you can do. So, what is that thing that you're able to pass on, in four days? The confidence opening up your heart and suddenly you become aware that it is simply.

Within four days, we get into a tribal sense together. There is no me and you we are together in nature battling called. There is no thought you help each other. You get this natural sense of helping each other which enables me like, oxytocin. I help you. It's really strong that oxytocin and within those groups I do in nature within want to have day.

They are out of their condition state of the Mind Link in tension and the completely open relaxed. And then they are able to let go and let the body, do what the body is able to do in extreme situations because they are no longer confined in their narrow to Consciousness. Everything reacts directly and find the answer and with that comes everybody and and it all suddenly makes sense. That love is the greatest.

Over universe and that we lost to tribal signs of helping each other and that makes them able in just four days to go in temperatures, like way down in freezing temperatures, freezing conditions, and then having great fun, and dance the Harlem Shake, and you sucks out on the Mountaintop. After hours in those conditions, those that makes the death suddenly aware to wants.

Consciousness. And that is like I never felt it. I never. Yeah, but that's you. And that you we are here to promote to show that everybody has it. And so all the problems in the world. We have a system inside in willful possible command. If we only exercise in their wake and to it to handle anything that comes to us because that's the way we were built. Not.

Place full of Hope and not 20% of the brain capacity within our Command, but hundred and there it is. And with her hundred, we find Freedom because we can go anywhere without fear because we are in control.

Goddamn, I love that before I ask my last question. Tell these guys where they can find you. I got a website, it's Wim Hof method.com., There is a free app in you can get it, get it all for free on there. And then you try out because feeling is understanding my last question. What's the impact that you want to have on the world together with impact Theory? We go into the details and make it possible and

Theory is not only impact Theory, you guys are a platform and you make, you bring it out in that though. There are the Deeds. Because people will take this up through Common Sense. She, amen. This shit works. And with that it's going to run because when she twerks it gets all the place. Do you want to see this in school systems? Oh, absolutely. I think they they should not only be trained in say mathematics and history and language.

Each but also in happiness, strength and health and children know, they are naturally still at the core. We got alienated. They are still there. They are born with it. We should never go away because that unconditional love unconditional power would be held, strong, and held and happy. Does it need six cars or ten houses? No, it's already there. And with that, we do we go away from this possessive way of thinking and and in

Sensitive trying to find a position to secure our life and all that fear based know you have the full control over your own mind. We were born with it and we never are going to teach our children again to become narrowed in their Consciousness, but learn from the beginning to expand to it all. And that's the real School of Life and we're in this soul is a flower and it's amazing.

When thank you so much for coming on the show man. Right? I was incredible, guys. I'm literally speechless. That was one of the most incredible hours of my life. I hope that you guys were as hit by that as I was, that was beyond extraordinary to think that. So many problems, come down to inflammation and that we really can take conscious control of that. And that this is a journey that anyone can go on. And I think the biggest mistake you could make possibly in your life. If he's right about, this is to

Miss him as being genetically more Advantage than anybody else. And instead to see that you can train your way to that, and the fact that he was born in identical twin. This is so crazy. This is like, I don't believe in fate man, but it's like, it was set up perfectly to show us just how much as possible. And that is exactly what I think. He represents. Just how much as humanly possible and I think that we are, literally only beginning to scratch the surface and if you want to be inspired with how much you can do.