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AMA #60: preventing cognitive decline, nutrition myths, lowering blood glucose, apoB, and blood pressure, and more
AMA #60: preventing cognitive decline, nutrition myths, lowering blood glucose, apoB, and blood pressure, and more

AMA #60: preventing cognitive decline, nutrition myths, lowering blood glucose, apoB, and blood pressure, and more

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Jun 17, 2024
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Hey everyone, welcome to a sneak peek ask me anything or am a episode of the drive podcast. I'm your host Peter attea at the end of this short episode. I'll explain how you can access the AMA episodes in full along with a ton of other membership benefits. We've created or you can learn more now by going to Peter Atia m.com forward slash.
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Subscribe. So without further delay. Here's today's sneak peek of the ask me anything
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episode.
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Welcome to ask me anything episode number 60. I'm once again joined by my co-host an extension in today's am a we're going to do something a little different while often are amas dive deep into one or two subjects today will be more of a rapid style question where we cover many topics and many questions we've done
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In the past and it's been quite popular. So we'll do it again here in today's am a we cover topics ranging from the prevention of cognitive decline and the relationship between cardiovascular disease and Alzheimer's disease how you can lower your blood glucose insulin and apob three biomarkers. We talked an awful lot about a variety of questions around nutrition including its relationship to weight loss and Longevity and how a person can identify the best diet for themselves along with tackling a number.
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Sure of what we think are the most common myths around nutrition. We talk about blood pressure step requirements per day standing versus sitting desks and more. If you're a subscriber and you want to watch the full video this podcast you can find it on the show notes page. And if you're not a subscriber you can watch the sneak peek of the video on our YouTube page. So without further delay. I hope you enjoy am a number 60
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We're walking to an AMA. How you doing? Good. Thanks for having me. Are you feeling cold today? I
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feel my usual old age. Yes. Now should I feel a little
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older. Do you want to let people know what we were just talking about on terms of how your age is starting to catch up to you?
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Oh, no. No that's been going on for a while. Yes. My vision is painful. And yes before we were live here. I was lamenting the increase in font size. I need to be able to read my notes if I'm not willing to put on Reed.
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Ders, which I guess glare off
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lights. Love it. Love it. Well for today's am a we're going to do something a little different. So traditionally are amas can be kind of deep Dives in a one or two subjects and we kind of go into them in detail. But for this am a we're going to do a little more of a rapid-fire Q&A style. We've done this a few times in the past and the reception is always been really good. And so through this we're able to cover a variety of topics variety of questions and the
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Will kind of be a little more how you would speak to a patient about it as opposed to Let's dive into 10 studies and kind of go about it that way and so through this will talk about things like preventing cognitive decline a bunch of nutrition questions relationship between cardiovascular disease and Alzheimer's disease. We have questions on weight loss and Longevity fasting blood pressure step requirements a really big wide range of content that I think anyone will find Value and hopefully
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enjoy it. So with all that said before we get into it anything you want to add outside of how excited you are to talk about nutrition again,
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you know what this feels like is since the book came out a year ago. I've been doing more public speaking and by public it's really private speaking meaning someone will company might say hey, can you come and speak to our team or whatever and because I just actually don't like standing up and giving lectures some people do a great job of it. I think I do a fine job at it, but I don't enjoy
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It is much. I enjoy discussions more the way we've structured those talks has been a Q&A. I just got back from one that I did yesterday to me a well moderated Q&A is generally more interesting for the audience. I actually think that's exactly what we're going to do here. This is exactly the type of stuff. I have been doing more and probably will continue to do more of in lieu of my more traditional thing that I used to do which was kind of stand up and just give a lecture for an hour and then take
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take a few questions after I think these q&a's followed by audience Q&A as are more my jam. So this is starting to feel more and more familiar and enjoyable if you had to give a lecture right now on a topic not related to longevity. What would that be? If it was just based on my interest? I would love to talk about the evolution of Formula One. I think that would be a really fun talk to talk about the evolution of that sport mechanically and in terms of the drivers the history of
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The sport who are the greatest drivers of all time and what were their strengths and how do they stack up? And I think that would be a super fun thing to talk
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about maybe we'll do a random one-off episode then on F1 and dive into that but not today first question today something we see a lot come through and if you look at how you talk about longevity lifespan Health span on the house band side, you have physical cognitive and emotional and
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We do a lot on physical health. There's a lot of exercise podcast bone health everything on that. We've done a lot on emotional health to but cognitive decline is something that has come up in various podcast, but not as much as others. And so one question were often getting his people who are worried about as they age or maybe they see their parents aging and they see that cognitive decline start to happen. So if someone came to you and said, you know, what's the best thing I can do, how can I prevent cognitive?
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Find in my life, what would you say to them?
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So this is a question. We do get asked all the time amongst our patients and it is something that we in the practice work very hard on what differentiates this form of decline from physical decline emotional decline. There are a couple of things one of them is kind of a gift which is that all of the things that an individual puts in.
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Into the effort around reducing the risk of neurodegenerative disease dementing neurodegenerative diseases and non dementing neurodegenerative diseases. So let's just think of dementia as the overall bucket. We have a playbook for what do you need to do to reduce your risk in terms of modifiable behavior. So we of course acknowledge that look there are certain people out there that have been apoe4 gene or to apoe4 genes or a family history that probably with it comes with some jeans that maybe we don't
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Even know about yet over there are other genes that we've talked about on the podcast that have even a higher or lower signal of risk than apoe4. Okay outside of that. What can you do with respect to your behavior to reduce the risk? Well, you take that entire Suite of tools and guess what applying those things full force is also going to prevent cognitive decline. So the overlap between reducing the risk of a disease known as dementia is
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virtually identical to the steps you take to reduce the risk of cognitive decline are there differences? Sure. There are if you're talking about patients in whom were trying to reduce the risk of dementia, and for example, we see serum markers of low amounts of amyloid accumulation. We may actually turn to pharmaceutical agents that reduce the amount of amyloid there. So that's something that wouldn't be in the Playbook. Okay. So let's not talk about cognitive decline in the non pathologic sense, which is really what we're talking about here. So you
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And overstate the big ones the evidence is very clear here that the most powerful in terms of magnitude effect size than the preservation of cognitive function is exercise and again both forms of exercise whether you want to talk about strength your cardio both matter and the answer shouldn't be which one it should be both. It's not an or it's an and I'm not going to go into great detail here because we've already done that right? I mean, we've got so many podcasts where we go through, you know, even entire podcast dedicated to brain health, but I just
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to highlight the points here. The second one is metabolic health. So if you think about it this way, which is think of the fact that the brain this tiny organ people have heard me say this before roughly two percent of your body weight and yet approximately 20% of your metabolic demand. So if you think about that enormous asymmetry, it tells you that anything that plays a role in fuel partitioning and energetics is going to have an outsized impact on your brain and all of that points towards
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Being remarkable fuel partitioning being very insulin sensitive and being very metabolically flexible. Luckily those things all go hand in hand. If you dispose of glucose very efficiently You Are by definition very metabolically flexible, which means you are able to access as substrate both fatty acid and glucose for ATP production again, the most obvious example of this is if you look at people at the far end of the Spectrum in terms of metabolic inflexibility, we see that in the disease.
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Eight of type 2 diabetes and in people with type 2 diabetes the increase in the risk for Alzheimer's disease, depending on where you look could be anywhere from 40 to even 100% So once you get to the point where your metabolically inflexible with that comes a lot of other risk factors. So again, if we want to be exercising a lot, we also want to be very metabolically flexible and the good news is those go hand in hand exercise is one of the most important tools to increase metabolic flexibility a third thing that we can't ignore here is sleep the epidemiology here is very
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You're right. The epidemiology would suggest that if an individual is not sleeping in appropriate length or stages there increase in Alzheimer's disease specifically, but probably in other forms of dementia also goes up. This is one that I think fortunately we don't need to spend that much time on today because I think the world has really over the past decade. I think the work of Arianna Huffington more recently and more robustly. Maybe Matt Walker have shed. A lot of light on the importance of sleep with respect to health right sleep is not a
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Passive thing. It's actually an active thing. It's an active form of recovery for the brain. Even though we're obviously looking pretty passive when we're doing it. So after those three things, what would we talk about? Well, I would say that the next most important thing is what you actually do with your brain and body, you know, we talked a little bit about this in a previous podcast, but people often ask like hey how important is it? If I'm doing crossword puzzles or playing games like that? And I think those things are probably less important than morals.
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Complicated things that combine brain and body so it seems that the brain body exercises are more important. So dancing I use as an example because you are having to coordinate your movement you're having to coordinate it with another person. You don't necessarily know exactly what they're going to do. Especially if you're learning. I mean the whole goal here is to be learning something learning a language is another thing that's a little bit more cognitively challenging than say doing a
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crossword puzzle My Hope on a personal level is that driving is one of those things it involves so many senses. So your eyes your ears and your proprioceptive vestibular system and you're like all my butt Dyno, right? So the ability of your butt to sense changes in movement and gravitation to sense your in the car. All of those things have to be working on a hyper overdrive. My hope is that that's the kind of thing that keeps your brain sharp as you age when people ask me,
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What do you think about retiring at such and such an age? We should think about retiring as a time when we don't work for money anymore, but I really think it's probably important that people are working throughout their entire lives. Meaning they're working on something that is keeping their brain challenged as of this recording. My dad is almost 87 years old and he still works every day at a quarry now. I have no idea why he doesn't need to be doing that and it poses such.
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Such an enormous risk to him. He's not stable when he walks around. He's walking on these rocks. I'm worried every single day. He's going to fall and smash his head open, but I've stopped telling him to stay home because I realize that he has to be doing that and doing deals selling stone is so important to him the fortunately for all of my father's health problems. His brain is by far the best part of his body. So I think there is something to them.
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I think is the Playbook now, you'll notice Nick. There's something I didn't talk about which is I didn't rattle off a list of 57 supplements is that because there are no supplements that could possibly improve cognitive performance. No, it's because none of them will move the needle nearly as much as what I just said. So everything else is a rounding error of basis points compared to the enormous percentage swings that you're going to see from all of the
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above. Yeah.
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I do respect how you don't drive because you love it. You just drive because of the brain health component. You're just trying to stay healthy cognitively. I have no enjoyment when I drive. In fact, it's such or I don't enjoy it at all. It's taxing but you do it for like the health of your brain, which is important to do so, that's what I tell my wife who fortunately doesn't listen to this podcast. She will never know the sarcasm in your voice neck. So the next question that we get a lot kind of fits into that because you mention
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Health being important one question we get a lot is how do you lower your blood glucose or insulin? And I think this comes up a lot because every annual physical those are getting measured. So I think every time someone gets blood work done and they get biomarkers back. Those are usually always included and those are what people look at almost as a baseline for their metabolic health, and I know we've talked a lot in depth about other ways to measure metabolic Health in more detail and how you can really see that but
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given that it's a metric. That's so many people see it's a question that we get asked a lot. So you are talking with the patient. They see their blood results in there. Like, you know Peter I'm worried about my glucose insulin you say it's a little high. What should I be doing?
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